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Just watching euro news now and didn't realise just how pro Putin Le Pen is. She states that backing Russia is beneficial to Europe and the US. Yeah, screw democracy, s'all about that cheap gas.


It is the same with akl the Far right- Trump, Le Pen, Farage, and the Tories in general. We have th likes of Trump praising Putin, calling him smart for annexing Crimea
 
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I've never understood why anyone would welcome an authoritarian government, it seems completely crazy to want someone to control the way you think and what you can do.

It is the mindless people that go on about immigration pr benefits cheats without any awareness of the real world -the weak minded who love simple solutions to imaginary problems they use to excuse their own failures in life. These are the people that get excited about an immigration centre in Rawanda, because when governments feed off their racism they feel empowered and can justify their bigotry rather than realiziing their racism is being exploited for political power
 
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I have no love for the Tories but to say that we live under a fascist, authoritarian government is quite frankly ridiculous.
Yes, some members for the government display authoritarian tendencies - looking at you Mrs Patel - but they are a far cry from people like Edrogen, Putin, Lukashenko et al.


Here i disagree, there is a very small difference between the current Tories or Trump than Putin. Snd the difference is mostly that our political systems have been robust enough to surpress the worst authoritarian tendencies, but hvis won't last if such people stay in power long.
 
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Here i disagree, there is a very small difference between the current Tories or Trump than Putin. Snd the difference is mostly that our political systems have been robust enough to surpress the worst authoritarian tendencies, but hvis won't last if such people stay in power long.
I have reported your posts for being off topic and deliberately argumentative. Enjoy.
 
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It is the same with akl the Far right- Trump, Le Pen, Farage, and the Tories in general. We have th likes of Trump praising Putin, calling him smart for annexing Crimea

Are you being willfully ignorant or do you genuinely not understand why he said that? He's pointing out that the current US administration is so weak it's smart to do it now and not when he was in charge. There's currently someone in the Whitehouse who can barely string a sentence together, so Putin isn't remotely worried about America possibly intervening with their military, where as Trump was a wildcard so Putin could never actually be sure he wouldn't. That's the difference. Some actual ambiguity.
 
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Like the boot people refugees the Ukrainians should be seeking refuge in the first safe country they arrive

All that come here need to go Rwanda for processing
I think they are. Then they can apply to come here if they have a family connection or are sponsored by a UK resident.
 
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Provided Ukrainians go to Rwanda for processing then all is good
Why would they? There are processing centres in Poland and France specifically for Ukranian refugees applying to come here. Once approved they would come straight to the UK.

They would only be sent to Rwanda if they illegally try to get into the country in the back of a lorry or a boat... in which case they would be illegal and sent to Rwanda for processing.
 
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Because they should, it's our new processing center... All refugees should be sent there, not just non white ones. We have no room for refugees, hence why government spending money on new processing center in another country.
You are just trying to get the race card in here.

The Rwanda deal is in place for people illegally entering the country, not people legally entering the country, regardless of skin colour.
 
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They would only be sent to Rwanda if they illegally try to get into the country in the back of a lorry or a boat... in which case they would be illegal and sent to Rwanda for processing.

No, they wouldn't. As has been explained multiple times.

You are not an illegal immigrant just because you entered the country "illegally".

It might be an inconvenient fact, but a fact it is nonetheless
 
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No, they wouldn't. As has been explained multiple times.

You are not an illegal immigrant just because you entered the country "illegally".

It might be an inconvenient fact, but a fact it is nonetheless
Regardless, the point of the Rwanda deal is for people who have come here without applying through the correct channels. Not for people who have applied through the correct channels beforehand.
 
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