No I do not, but a conventional response that damages Russia's goals would be critical to ensuring that they can't just nuke whatever they like, to allow it to occur without consequence would be an existential error for the West. Hopefully said response would be to secure every oblast in Ukraine that isn't currently under siege with a coalition of willing Western militaries, I'd also particularly like major settlements to be covered by Patriot/THAAD systems.
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That depends, in the extreme worse case the main contributor to climate change could itself be in danger of extinction.
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Does it even matter ? Throw in the USA arsenal (which they wont use) in Europe they themselves are safe(ish) So your down to the UK and Frances arsenal. That's more than enough devastation to make Russia no more, buy hey.
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I don't think it makes much difference. If anything it will motivate Western nations to accelerate their renewable (and nuclear) programmes and severe their dependence on oil and gas from dubious regimes. That fire is ugly, but I doubt it contributes much to climate change, ultimately the carbon in grass and leaves returns to the atmosphere relatively rapidly whether through decay or fire; and much larger areas than that burn every year.
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While we are gradually weening ourselves off that contributor it's still going to take time and I don't think we'll be off it before that time runs out because I think time has already run out to make a substantial difference on what is coming, anything we do now to combat the eventual catastrophic shift in our climate is just to lessen the potential the blow and that's without getting into the issue of plastics which are also linked heavily to that contributor
I'm not saying that 1 fire is going to make a difference, but it's one of many many fires so it will make a difference when they're all added up
Not the best example right now
In this analogy Russia is Man U and NATO is the primary school squad that will do the stomping.
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I was talking about the human race, obviously a little too obtusely.
No, I would fight and that would be fine, it is fine for people in Ukraine to fight for their country. For the rest of the world we should limit our assistance to one which doesn't make us the military industry of Ukraine because that risks escalating to a level that simply is not worth it. Similarly I may take a loss on losing my wallet to someone with a knife to my throat rather than fight him to the death over a £20 note.
*Biden: We Have to Do Our Part to Help Ukraine
*Biden: Need Aid Bill to Support Ukraine in Fight for Freedom
*Biden: Need to Contribute Arms, Ammunition, Economic Support
*Biden: We’re Not Attacking Russia; We’re Helping Ukraine Defend Itself Against Russian Aggression
*Biden: World Must and Will Hold Russia Accountable
*Biden: We Also Propose to Congress to Strengthen Law Enforcement’s Ability to Take Property Tied to Russian Oligarchs.
*Biden: No One Should Be Making Idle Comments About Use of Nuclear Weapons
*Biden: Not Concerned About a Recession After GDP Data
*Biden: Ukraine and Covid Aid Needs to Get Done, No Matter What.
*US Senate Republican Leader Mcconnellon on Ukraine Aid, We Need to Replenish Our Stockpiles
*Bulgaria Minister: Bulgaria Is Considering Suing Gazprom Over the Halt.
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It's not just losing a £20 note though is it? It's also ensuring that thief will come back for your house next.
Russia will never merely accept Crimea or the Donbass in exchange for no further aggression because they have already betrayed their last promise to respect Ukraine's sovereignty.
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Russia publishes names of 100 Brit 'mercenaries fighting for Ukraine'
Scott Sibley, a veteran of the British armed forces, has been named by friends as the Briton who died in Ukraine.
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There's short term and long term ways of ensuring your people are safe. Shutting down your warmongering neighbours economy would be a long term win.
*Senior US Defence Official: Russia’s Progress in Donbas Is Slow And Uneven.
*Senior US Defence Official: Some Russian Forces Have Been Departing Mariupol Area Towards Northwest Even As Fight for It Continues.
*Senior US Defence Official: More Than 60% of 90 Howitzers for Ukraine Have Arrived
*Senior US Defence Official: U.S. Carrying Out Training for Ukrainians Outside of Ukraine on Q64 Mobile Radar System
https://twitter.com/jseldin/status/1519698255059292162 - More of a transcript w/ a lot more details than I have
*Austria: European Commission Approved Russia Gas Payments. Payments Are in Accordance With Sanctions.
*Two Powerful Blasts Heard in Russian Region of Belgorod Bordering Ukraine — Two Witnesses
*Senior US Defence Official: Some Russian Forces Have Been Departing Mariupol Area Towards Northwest Even As Fight for It Continues.
*Senior US Defence Official: More Than 60% of 90 Howitzers for Ukraine Have Arrived
*Senior US Defence Official: U.S. Carrying Out Training for Ukrainians Outside of Ukraine on Q64 Mobile Radar System
https://twitter.com/jseldin/status/1519698255059292162 - More of a transcript w/ a lot more details than I have
*Two Powerful Blasts Heard in Russian Region of Belgorod Bordering Ukraine — Two Witnesses
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Economic and political stagnation is what did for the USSR by the end the shelves were empty as the planned economy simply wasn't working people were driving ladas and other rust heaps on wheels assuming they could get one at all with waiting lists years long and everyone could see the West's economic model was working and theirs wasn't. There was an abortive attempt to introduce western style political reforms as well as economic but its since regressed into old style authoritarianism and political stagnation. Hitting the economy seems to be the best option for hitting the average russian where it hurts unfortunately russias vast oil and especially gas exports is directly funding Putin's war and until theres an end to that I don't see an end to Putin's ambitions
Lavrov's right about us being involved in a proxy war with russia - our strategy is to make sure it stays that way the moment our arms cross the border they're a target for attacks and the russians couldn't have made that clearer, the risk is their missiles stray across the border but I imagine NATO won't instantly launch nukes they'll limit it to harsh words at least initially but theres no doubt the risk of escalation is there its just a matter of how far the russians want to push it and right now they're pretty ambitious -
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Im actually stunned the 5th columnists on here are advocating just giving up to Russia.....
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So Russia can just do as it wants? And we say what, it,s ok it,s just Ukrain?
this response from Ukrain has knocked them for six , the response from the NATO countries, arming Ukrain has hit them even harder.
Russia will not be bulling any one any more for a long time.
The school bully has been kicked in the nuts. To hear some people say just give them the Dombass is like saying if the come here they can just keep Wales.
If they got away with this they would be all over Europe again in a couple of years. United we have a bigger stick, Putin will find a way out, claim a victory and crawl under his rock. This has pushed him under a bus, when the fighting stops the in fighting begins.
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I think we'd all be happier with the rhetoric if it was coming out of the mouths of the competent
"The package will "establish new authorities for the forfeiture of property linked to Russian kleptocracy, allow the government to use the proceeds to support Ukraine and further strengthen related law enforcement tools," the White House said in a statement.
Canada's government also proposed legislation this week that would allow it to seize and sell off Russian assets.
Under pressure to expand its sanctions actions, the ruling Liberals are pushing for "any type of property" including money, digital assets and virtual currency to be subject to seizure."
Trump: We need to move away from a globalist agenda.
Biden: Hold my potato.
Giving the CCP some interesting ideas I bet, all that American corporate infrastructure, just waiting to be "nationalised" because of XYZ (probably Taiwan).
Canada's government also proposed legislation this week that would allow it to seize and sell off Russian assets.
Under pressure to expand its sanctions actions, the ruling Liberals are pushing for "any type of property" including money, digital assets and virtual currency to be subject to seizure."
Trump: We need to move away from a globalist agenda.
Biden: Hold my potato.
Giving the CCP some interesting ideas I bet, all that American corporate infrastructure, just waiting to be "nationalised" because of XYZ (probably Taiwan).
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