United 93: How quickly we forget 9/11

Beansprout said:
I won't be watching this film. I just don't see the point.

But, out of respect, I shan't rant here :)

Agreed here too, but I'm not going to stay completely closed mouthed on this one:

I'd like to think it was done with good intentions, but I know what the movie industry is like. Ultimately it was some fat cat who has realised how much cash could be made out of this film.
 
Garp said:
I'd like to think it was done with good intentions, but I know what the movie industry is like. Ultimately it was some fat cat who has realised how much cash could be made out of this film.
Have to agree 100%. You'd like to think there were good reasons behind it but you know it just comes down to money. I don't suppose all of the profits are going to help the victims families are they?
 
Desmo said:
Have to agree 100%. You'd like to think there were good reasons behind it but you know it just comes down to money. I don't suppose all of the profits are going to help the victims families are they?


No but the victims families had a huge say in the movie and from what I hear all agreed with the content of the film. I guess that means they are also happy with where the profits are going.
 
dmpoole said:
Its sad that a great number of people on OCUK think that United 93 was all made up.

I think flight 93 was real, but what happened on board and how it came to crash is debatable and the film was based on speculation, not facts as I understand it :) In fact haven't you said that you think it was shot down?
 
saw this last night with the gf, first film i've ever been to where the audience stood up and clapped at the end! really sends shivers down your back at points. i didnt cry but the gf did :o

very good film all should watch just to see the courage from those passengers

*S
 
I just dont want to see the film either I cant see why you'd want to either really, it's not as if you can class it as "good entertainment" its horrific what went on but no doubt I'll be dragged along to see it with the wife.
 
Stiff_Cookie said:
No but the victims families had a huge say in the movie and from what I hear all agreed with the content of the film. I guess that means they are also happy with where the profits are going.

Fair enough, but I dont think the dead are ever considered with a rational opinion, especially in the news. No one really knows for sure what happened on that plane, maybe some passengers took action, maybe others cried their eyes out whilst peeing their pants - but that will hardly be presented on film as their families would never see their relatives pictured as cowards, when the reality is most people on that flight probably sat in their seat and cried. People in western society are not brought up to confront death or be heroes.
 
nero120 said:
Fair enough, but I dont think the dead are ever considered with a rational opinion, especially in the news. No one really knows for sure what happened on that plane, maybe some passengers took action, maybe others cried their eyes out whilst peeing their pants - but that will hardly be presented on film as their families would never see their relatives pictured as cowards, when the reality is most people on that flight probably sat in their seat and cried. People in western society are not brought up to confront death or be heroes.

with that said im sure your right, but that plane somehow managed to crash and to the very few onboard that showed great courage and caused that plane to go down i show great respect.

*S
 
nero120 said:
People in western society are not brought up to confront death or be heroes.

That's a sweeping statement, and given that you have never been placed in such a position I dont think that you can comment with any experience...

I think that a well adjusted person is capable of heroism in the right circumstances, just as the ill adjusted are capable of performing things such as hijackings.
 
cleanbluesky said:
That's a sweeping statement, and given that you have never been placed in such a position I dont think that you can comment with any experience...

Why would me being in that position have any bearing on my opinion of society?? Its not like you to use emotional arguments.

I think that a well adjusted person is capable of heroism in the right circumstances, just as the ill adjusted are capable of performing things such as hijackings.

I would agree in theory, but the reality is most people are not prepared for the emotional and psychological trauma they would undergo in such a stressful situation (as they are used to comfortable living and very rarely are faced with such situations). Only the most hardy people would be able to control themselves in that situation and take action, the rest im sure would not be able to act through fear, even though they probably knew they would die anyway.

As an example, why is it that women allow themselves to be raped? Even if the guy has a knife, the reality is that they would probably kill them after the raping so why not go for broke and go for his eyes? Why? Because fear paralyses those that are not accustomed to it, and I cannot agree with you that the majority of those that flight would be any more capable of dealing with it.
 
nero120 said:
As an example, why is it that women allow themselves to be raped? Even if the guy has a knife, the reality is that they would probably kill them after the raping

I don't quite follow that... most rapists don't murder their victims even if they have a knife.
 
dirtydog said:
I don't quite follow that... most rapists don't murder their victims even if they have a knife.

Okay I'll correct, but many are killed after being raped. Either way, my point stands - why do many women allow themselves to be raped? If they really wanted to stop it they could, if they werent afraid to die (and allowing for cases of one on one, if it were a gang they probably couldnt stop it from happening unless they got away).
 
dirtydog said:
Hmm that is a strange question with a questionable premise :)

Why? It is only meant to illustrate the practical reality that most normal people will succumb to fear when presented with it.
 
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