Genius? It's such a obvious move.
United States Grand Prix 2012, Austin - Race 19/20
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Genius? It's such a obvious move.
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Its not ocuk, its the whole internet in general. Vettel is just generally disliked.
Or Alonso has fans.....
Incorrect, according to charlie whiting.
Oskari Saari @OskariSaari
Talked to C. Whiting. Ferrari can change MAS gearbox if they want. Don't have to prove there's anything wrong. No info if they'll do it.
Andrew Benson @andrewbensonf1
Doesn't seem to be a rule saying teams have to prove gearbox has a problem to change it but some engineers believe that's the practice
However, scarbs tweeted:
If unhappy with ferraris gbox explanation the FIA might impose parc ferme rules, make massa start from the pitlane & not shuffle up the grid.
the gearbox and parc ferme rules are in conflict, the fia can step in to prevent systemic or cynical abuse of PFerme
I think only a small portion of the people perpetually complaining about how RBR are 'cheating' are Alonso fans. It seems far wider spread than that.
I'm just savouring the irony that it's taken Alonso of all people to join Ferrari for people on here to start being almost sympathetic towards them. I mean, back in '08 you'd have had people on here screaming blue bloody murder about Ferrari being dirty cheating swines for even mooting the idea of swapping out a gearbox to shuffle the grid.
Adam Cooper @adamcooperf1
#F1 I hear via good source that Ferrari will indeed go for the Massa penalty. All they have to do is break the seal, not change 'box
then only a few minutes later:
Adam Cooper @adamcooperf1
#F1 Had it confirmed: Ferrari broke seal on @Felipe1Massa's gearbox so a penalty should result!
#F1 I hear via good source that Ferrari will indeed go for the Massa penalty. All they have to do is break the seal, not change 'box
then only a few minutes later:
Adam Cooper @adamcooperf1
#F1 Had it confirmed: Ferrari broke seal on @Felipe1Massa's gearbox so a penalty should result!
Its a bit of a positive catch 22 for Alonso, as if the FIA do decide its deliberate manipulation of the rules any penalty for that would go against Massa. A bit like the deliberate overtake in Germany or the crash in Singapore. So long as Alonso stays out of it he will be safe from any punishment even though it is him who benifits.
Hello everyone.
Sorry if its already been mentioned, but I wonder what the chances are of Webber mysteriously having a gear box issue so that he will take a grid drop, and put Fred back on the dirty side of the track.
*twilight zone tune*
Sorry if its already been mentioned, but I wonder what the chances are of Webber mysteriously having a gear box issue so that he will take a grid drop, and put Fred back on the dirty side of the track.
*twilight zone tune*
Making rules up again?
Ferrari can break the seal or change the box if they wish, nothing in the rules saying the gearbox has to have a real fault.
Not much different to RBR starting Seb from the pitlane with a whole new race dedicated setup is it...
Agreed Mr Men.
It is misuse of the rules though.
I think that the 5 spot grid penalty for gearbox change should be removed, we saw several drivers taking penalties this year and lose out because of it. Its the teams fault if the gearbox fails, so I don't see why the driver should be punished.
Just take 5 places worth of points from their WCC points.
It is misuse of the rules though.
I think that the 5 spot grid penalty for gearbox change should be removed, we saw several drivers taking penalties this year and lose out because of it. Its the teams fault if the gearbox fails, so I don't see why the driver should be punished.
Just take 5 places worth of points from their WCC points.