United States Grand Prix 2015, Austin - Race 16/19
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How can you compare two drivers that have never had common team mates?
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I missed the second half, but it sounded like a cracker. Can't wait to see the highlights when I get back from holiday.
I have a feeling next year is going to be a much closer fight...but not between Hamilton and Rosberg.
I can't believe Rosberg bottled it again...and then said that this hasn't happened before
Drivers tend to be happy when they get on the podium, but Rosberg always feels hard done by if he hasn't won. It must be hard to be consistently out-performed by your team mate, but it's difficult to have any sympathy for Rosberg when he's such a bad loser, and doesn't have what it takes to win on the track.
Thoughts on Hamilton's T1 overtake? Is it now acceptable to not leave room for the other car on the exit of the corner and run them off the road? He wasn't ahead at the time he was running Rosberg off track today as they banged wheels. He didn't say he understeered either, he admitted that he straightened the car up and Rosberg didn't.
I don't agree with it, much like I didn't agree with it in Suzuka - Vettel/Alonso '12 springs to mind.
I think the Stewards were a little more lenient due to them both being first corner, first lap incidents - and the latter with the bad weather.
I think the Stewards were a little more lenient due to them both being first corner, first lap incidents - and the latter with the bad weather.
Haha! I was so glad to be wrong
Let's be honest though, at stages he never looked like winning
I just watched it on iplayer. Congrats Lewis, WDC !!!
I couldn't believe it when Nico made a mistake and put Lewis back in the lead. Lewis drove a blinder today and luck was also really on his side just when he needed it.
I couldn't believe it when Nico made a mistake and put Lewis back in the lead. Lewis drove a blinder today and luck was also really on his side just when he needed it.
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He's been making these mistakes for a while now, well, I would say Canada ish, Monza big time last year and repeatedly this year. Either he just knows Hamilton will reel him in and eventually pass him and the pressure literally gets too much and he makes a mistake or he pushes harder than he can handle to stay ahead and makes these mistakes.
I'm someone thinking he does it on purpose just so post race he can blame something besides himself. This time it's all "that has never happened to me ever in any testing, blah blah blah", it sounded rehearsed, with one of the interviews the person asked a question about the start and he said "I won't answer that, let me tell you about that mistake..." and repeated word for word the excuse he used in the press conference already. By gifting Hamilton the place he can make an excuse and do his usual "I had the win all along" thing, being beaten wheel to wheel... again, he has no excuse.
Rosberg himself and anti Hamilton fans like to forget that Rosberg has chopped off Hamilton several times in the past two years, a huge one at Canada which being directly into another corner is a big deal to chop someone off, both of Rosbergs have been onto straights with plenty of solid run off to floor it while off the track. As said, if Rosberg made better choices he would have led both the recent races this was a 'problem' for him. Had he left less room in Japan was it, and had he having lost the inside give himself room for the cutback rather than attempt to push into Hamilton he could have gotten ahead after the corner.
Rosberg just consistently picks the wrong option, Hamilton in Bahrain last time when Rosberg sent it up the inside made the right choice, backed out, swung out a bit, came into the corner at a sharper angle and got a far better exit, took the place right back. Rosberg's race craft is really poor. He can do a fast quali lap but I don't rate him as good in races at all.
I'm someone thinking he does it on purpose just so post race he can blame something besides himself. This time it's all "that has never happened to me ever in any testing, blah blah blah", it sounded rehearsed, with one of the interviews the person asked a question about the start and he said "I won't answer that, let me tell you about that mistake..." and repeated word for word the excuse he used in the press conference already. By gifting Hamilton the place he can make an excuse and do his usual "I had the win all along" thing, being beaten wheel to wheel... again, he has no excuse.
Rosberg himself and anti Hamilton fans like to forget that Rosberg has chopped off Hamilton several times in the past two years, a huge one at Canada which being directly into another corner is a big deal to chop someone off, both of Rosbergs have been onto straights with plenty of solid run off to floor it while off the track. As said, if Rosberg made better choices he would have led both the recent races this was a 'problem' for him. Had he left less room in Japan was it, and had he having lost the inside give himself room for the cutback rather than attempt to push into Hamilton he could have gotten ahead after the corner.
Rosberg just consistently picks the wrong option, Hamilton in Bahrain last time when Rosberg sent it up the inside made the right choice, backed out, swung out a bit, came into the corner at a sharper angle and got a far better exit, took the place right back. Rosberg's race craft is really poor. He can do a fast quali lap but I don't rate him as good in races at all.
He isn't WDC yet. The official presentation is at the F1 gala in December.
Rosberg’s post race reaction was poor for me. He doesn’t need to be happy that he’s lost the race or the WDC but he could be more gracious, particularly as it is his team mate that’s won.
I think his rather sour attitude is that, once again, the race demonstrated perfectly that he’s not equipped with sufficient skill to beat his faster team mate. Same situation, same car, same drivers and he’ll come off second 9 times out of 10. He can’t upskill enough to change the outcome, so if he wants to beat Hamilton then he’d need to leave and find a faster car. That doesn’t seem possible either.
The first corner was tough racing but it was fair. Rosberg’s error is continually putting himself in a position where the same thing can happen again. By now he’s probably convinced himself that he needs to take a more robust approach in the same situation. Last time he did that, in Spa, we all saw what the outcome was. I expect that to be repeated again in 2016.
I think his rather sour attitude is that, once again, the race demonstrated perfectly that he’s not equipped with sufficient skill to beat his faster team mate. Same situation, same car, same drivers and he’ll come off second 9 times out of 10. He can’t upskill enough to change the outcome, so if he wants to beat Hamilton then he’d need to leave and find a faster car. That doesn’t seem possible either.
The first corner was tough racing but it was fair. Rosberg’s error is continually putting himself in a position where the same thing can happen again. By now he’s probably convinced himself that he needs to take a more robust approach in the same situation. Last time he did that, in Spa, we all saw what the outcome was. I expect that to be repeated again in 2016.
Hahaha. What about when he was at redbull and got outclassed by ricciardo?
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Suggestion was a contract clause, where if he was x amount behind, he could get out with less financial issues.
No chance.
Alonso, sure I can remember some lad in his first ever year of F1 giving him a run for his money, almost winning the WDC.
Also who was that lad who was driving that unrealible dog of a McLaren and almost stole the WDC from vettel?
Who was it again?
Fair comparisons lol. Some people are so blind. Hamilton is right up there with some of the best drivers to be in F1. Might have the worst dress sense out of the lot.
Also who was that lad who was driving that unrealible dog of a McLaren and almost stole the WDC from vettel?
Who was it again?
Fair comparisons lol. Some people are so blind. Hamilton is right up there with some of the best drivers to be in F1. Might have the worst dress sense out of the lot.