**Unofficial Tyre Thread**

V_R said:
Blimey, just checked black circles.. £871 for 4 Continental Winter Contacts.

I'd be better off buying a cheap set of the 18" Monza's and putting winters on them, which is probably the better option anyway.
£500 for a set of CrossCilmate+ and then some cheap wheels off eBay.

Who's idea was it to get a car with 19" wheels anyway..... :rolleyes:
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Thats the problem with big wheels. Same on my SUVs with 20"+ wheels. much cheaper to buy a set of smaller alloys and put winter tyres on them than buying winter tyres in the sizes needed.
 
V_R said:
I didn't see your post pre edit. Black Circles only had two winters to choose from, Continental's being one of them, and they were both about the same price.
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Ah - I mentioned I had some experience of a Golf with WinterContacts but that wasn't in actual winter conditions so not really helpful.
 
I'm going to buy some Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2 summer tyres. They have good reviews and performed well under wet braking tests.

What are your thoughts about using summer tyres in all conditions incl wet roads, icy roads, snowy roads etc?
 
Ricochet J said:
I'm going to buy some Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2 summer tyres. They have good reviews and performed well under wet braking tests.

What are your thoughts about using summer tyres in all conditions incl wet roads, icy roads, snowy roads etc?
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As long as you are careful in colder/snowy conditions then like millions of other people in the UK they'll be fine. If you regularly get snow in winter where you live, all seasons might be worth it, but they tend to be more expensive.
 
Ricochet J said:
I'm going to buy some Goodyear EfficientGrip Performance 2 summer tyres. They have good reviews and performed well under wet braking tests.

What are your thoughts about using summer tyres in all conditions incl wet roads, icy roads, snowy roads etc?
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In icy / snowy conditions ? forget it ! lol
all season or winter tyres !
 
At least in the south we've had like 3 occasions in the last almost 15 years where summer tyres wouldn't cope and/or the main roads haven't been treated but when those conditions do happen no amount of careful driving necessarily makes up for the inadequacies of summer tyres.

A lot depends on the vehicle as well - a Tiguan with snow mode and all wheel drive for instance will LOL through conditions on summer tyres other vehicle might struggle on all-seasons, etc. etc.
 
Rroff said:
At least in the south we've had like 3 occasions in the last almost 15 years where summer tyres wouldn't cope and/or the main roads haven't been treated but when those conditions do happen no amount of careful driving necessarily makes up for the inadequacies of summer tyres.

A lot depends on the vehicle as well - a Tiguan with snow mode and all wheel drive for instance will LOL through conditions on summer tyres other vehicle might struggle on all-seasons, etc. etc.
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Exactly my point. It all depends where you live. Up North we would have 15-20 times per winter where summer tyres wont cut it. That would mean 15-20 days when you wouldnt be able to get to work. Even with 4wd and snow mode.
 
jpaul said:
Interesting comment from mechanic who just did my MOT - advisory(expected)

many so called premium tyres are showing cracking in the tread channels , after a few years, to wit, my goodyear efficient grip's about 3 years 25K old,

for that reason, he was more hot on the chinese options ? he said there is little mileage in trying to exploit guarantee/warranty.

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EDIT: pretty good tyres on your drive black friday deal 4 TYRES - 15% off ...
just need to find a neighbour who also wants two.
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Just had similar with my Turanzas while in for MOT - about 40% tread wear but with the cracking in the channels MOT guy reckons they are more like 50-60% through their life. They aren't even 2 years old IIRC.
 
Every time I buy a car it’s got the classic P Zeros that so many car companies now seem to fit to their higher performance offerings. Pirelli must give them huge discounts. I will say though that this set have actually surprised me by how good they are on the car, but there are much better offerings out there. I’ll probably be stuck with them unless all 4 wear at the same rate, mainly for OCD reasons :cry:

Rroff said:
Just had similar with my Turanzas while in for MOT - about 40% tread wear but with the cracking in the channels MOT guy reckons they are more like 50-60% through their life. They aren't even 2 years old IIRC.
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Interesting, I’ve had Bridgestones, Goodyear and Pirelli tyres all show signs of cracking far earlier than I’ve ever seen in tyres previously.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Every time I buy a car it’s got the classic P Zeros that so many car companies now seem to fit to their higher performance offerings. Pirelli must give them huge discounts. I will say though that this set have actually surprised me by how good they are on the car, but there are much better offerings out there. I’ll probably be stuck with them unless all 4 wear at the same rate, mainly for OCD reasons :cry:

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It is indeed massive the discounts offered. When i used to work in the industry it was common for manufacturers to get 75% discount on tyres. I heard at times, some manufacturers even got the tyres for free, just paying for delivery.

Kinda of makes sense as a lot of people will buy the same make to replace tyres when due as what came on the car so its worth a lot fo future sales for the tyre manufacturers. Even you have admitted yourself you will likely buy the P Zeros on your car when you need new ones unless you need all 4 at once.

In the same way a car manufacturer might give 6 cars for free to a James Bond film as its worth writing them off compared to future sales.
 
Jonny ///M said:
I've ordered some CC2 to be fitted next week. I now live up higher than before and tend to get more snow than before even at 400ft difference.

Anything would be better than a Eagle F1 AS5 in the snow I imagine.
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****** one on a pothole hidden in puddle tonight. Thick fog and heavy rain :(

I was struggling to find one before new year but struck gold with a Kwik fit a few miles away tomorrow. Snow is due the next week or so and doing deliveries so can't be doing that on a space saver.
 
Not great pic as it is miserable this morning but just put my new wheels/tyres on:

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Not too gone on the looks but didn't get them for looks.

Declared them on insurance - didn't cost anything but the admin fee which was nice - was expecting them to load it on :s

EDIT: Wasn't even charged any admin fee they just updated and republished the documents.
 
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I have different size wheels on my E Class.

The back ones are down to 3mm tread now and Rotalla make the previous owner had put on.

I recently had a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4's put on the front which are at 6mm.

Can i move these to the back and get a new set of Pilot Sport put on the front the same size ?

Atm its 235/40/18 Front - Pilot Sports 4's
255/35/18 - Rear - Rotalla

Can i have

235/40/18 - Front - Pilot Sport 4's - New Set
235/40/18 - Rear - Part Worn Pilot Sports Already on Front ?

Or should i just get 255/35/18 Pilot Sport 4's on the back ?
 
Having done a bit of driving on the Falken Wildpeak AT3WAs now - seem well mannered on the road, a lot less road noise than the Bridgestone Turanza t005 I had on before - in fact surprisingly a lot less road noise than most of the 4x4 tyres I've experience of. Take a little more power to get moving from stationary and a little heavier manoeuvring at low speed but once up to speed don't really notice any difference to other tyres in that respect - slightly heavier but nothing major. Firmer ride than the Turanzas but eat up some of the bumps and undulations the Turanzas would become wallowy through. In the rain seemed to provide a similar experience to the Turanzas, feeling assured under acceleration and coming to a stop, though had more lateral play than the Turanza which tend to feel a bit "on a rail" like in the rain.

Only thing I don't like so much - the Turanzas have very smooth linear braking feel/response while the Wildpeaks were so-so initially when braking then bite hard making them a bit harder to taper off speed smoothly but that might change with more wear. Also scrub off speed faster than the Turanzas when you ease off the accelerator.

Haven't had enough time yet to see what impact they have on MPG - the average can take awhile to update sometimes and I couldn't really pay enough attention to the instantaneous MPG to compare but most of the time didn't seem any different.

Overall seem like a good pickup/4x4/larger SUV tyre though I'm yet to use them on anything other than paved and gravel roads/lanes to see how they perform when the going gets tougher. At higher speeds felt a bit vague at times so probably wouldn't want them on a performance vehicle (unsurprisingly).

In hindsight going with 255/65/R17 would probably be an improvement in both ride comfort and off-road potential than 255/60/R18 without compromising the connection to the road to any real degree.
 
MadMan-JaMeS said:
Or should i just get 255/35/18 Pilot Sport 4's on the back ?
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This ^^

Your car has staggered wheel sizes which means your rear alloys are wider than your fronts (hence why they're fitted with wider tyres). This means you can't move the rears to the fronts so you must get the new tyres in the correct tyre size.
 
MadMan-JaMeS said:
I have different size wheels on my E Class.

The back ones are down to 3mm tread now and Rotalla make the previous owner had put on.

I recently had a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4's put on the front which are at 6mm.

Can i move these to the back and get a new set of Pilot Sport put on the front the same size ?

Atm its 235/40/18 Front - Pilot Sports 4's
255/35/18 - Rear - Rotalla

Can i have

235/40/18 - Front - Pilot Sport 4's - New Set
235/40/18 - Rear - Part Worn Pilot Sports Already on Front ?

Or should i just get 255/35/18 Pilot Sport 4's on the back ?
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Nope you should get the 255/40/18 for the rears as your rims are likely to be wider on the rear.

I always find this site great for rim and tyre options and offsets

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/mercedes/e-class/

Although i cant find any E class which is meant to have 235s on the front????? What year and model is yours?
 
unfortunately if you have 255/35/18 's
you cant fit 235/40/18 tyres on those wheels

besides , i wouldn't want to do that, id rather have wider ones on the back

it must be RWD?
 
MadMan-JaMeS said:
2009 E350
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Shouldnt even have 235/40/18 on that car according to the database. Are they original oem alloys?

Should be either 245/40 both front and rear or 265/35 on the rear if you have the bogger 9J alloys fitted to the rear.

Never known that database to be wrong but it seems that you could get 235/40/18 on that model

https://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/information/fitting_chart/mercedes-benz

And that shows the rear wheels are bigger 8.5s so you will need 255/35/18 on them ideally


However there isnt much difference between 8s and 8.5 and according to oponeo you can fit the following to that rim

https://www.oponeo.co.uk/tools/fit-the-tyre-to-the-rim/8-50x18

Personally i would just pay the little bit extra and get the PS4s on the rear in 255/40r18
 
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