**Unofficial Tyre Thread**

I'm a full member of the Cross Climate 2 appreciation club having driven home in snow, tackling the uphill section that was previously impossible in summer tyres.
I haven't tried the version 2 yet. Still working my through a few sets of the 1st generation. But will for sure go for the 2nd gen when I need to.
 
I haven't tried the version 2 yet. Still working my through a few sets of the 1st generation. But will for sure go for the 2nd gen when I need to.

This is my 2nd winter with them, this winter being far worse for snow than last year. I rotated them when I put them on in October and I'm wondering at what tread depth should they be replaced.
 
I went with 3mm last time. Although Michellin do claim they are good all the way down to the 1.6mm limit.

But I did manage to find a set of wheels for sale, with the proper size tyres, where the tyres were almost brand new, and much cheaper than new all in. So stripped the tyres off, and sold the wheels for an even smaller total cost.
 
Wheres the best place to grab tyres these days? Not had to actually buy a new set in a long time. Looking for some 225/35/20 on the front and 255/30/20 for the rear likely ps4s I feel like blackcircles used to be by far cheaper than everywhere but seem pretty expensive now. Costco is the cheapest I can find so far at 233 ea for front and 276 for rear. I was tempted by the potenzas as costco have them miles cheaper then everywhere else and they have an offer on them but they don't stock them for the fronts closest size is 235/35/20 instead which being honest I'm clueless on what difference it would actually make.
 
Wheres the best place to grab tyres these days? Not had to actually buy a new set in a long time. Looking for some 225/35/20 on the front and 255/30/20 for the rear likely ps4s I feel like blackcircles used to be by far cheaper than everywhere but seem pretty expensive now. Costco is the cheapest I can find so far at 233 ea for front and 276 for rear. I was tempted by the potenzas as costco have them miles cheaper then everywhere else and they have an offer on them but they don't stock them for the fronts closest size is 235/35/20 instead which being honest I'm clueless on what difference it would actually make.

It really depends who is doing deals.

F1 Auto, ATS, Kwik Fit, Halfords etc


I usually look at Camskill to give me a good idea of what the tyres should cost before fitting.
 
It really depends who is doing deals.

F1 Auto, ATS, Kwik Fit, Halfords etc


I usually look at Camskill to give me a good idea of what the tyres should cost before fitting.

Yeah I’ve looked at them all but none are getting close to Costco, it’s awkward sizing so I’ll find a good price for the rears in a hood tyre but then they won’t sell a matching front.

Cam skills is a good idea, mps4s are around £200/£230 I use a local Indy so may be worth seeing how much they charge to fit tyres cause thats also 30/40 per tyre less
 
MPS5 fitted to my Golf today 225/45 r17 £210 rears

They were already on the front so didn’t bother going for something else
 
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Just had Michelin CrossClimate2 fitted to the Golf to ensure winter hack duties can be performed admirably.

Initial impressions are they seem much better than the Conti Premium Contact 6 they replaced (who knew, etc) but looking forward to some more challenging weather to put them through their paces.

We had them on our last Discovery (well, CrossClimate SUV anyway) and I was seriously impressed. Will be putting them on our new Discover when the Current Pirelli Scorpions wear out.
 
Do you find some tyre dealers are keen to push cheap Chinese tyres over premium brands? I guess they do this because there’s more profit in them and most customers just want the cheapest tyres they can get hold of.

I am not talking about the major online tyre suppliers where you can choose your tyres on their website but the smaller local tyre fitters who don’t sell online.
 
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Do you find some tyre dealers are keen to push cheap Chinese tyres over premium brands? I guess they do this because there’s more profit in them and most customers just want the cheapest tyres they can get hold of.

I am not talking about the major online tyre suppliers where you can choose your tyres on their website but the smaller local tyre fitters who don’t sell online.

Every tyre fitting place I've ever been to deals mostly in ditchfinders, because its what the idiots want.
 
Every tyre fitting place I've ever been to deals mostly in ditchfinders, because its what the idiots want.
'Just whatever is cheapest and in stock' is something you will hear at any tyre fitting centre counter, day in, day out. Anything remotely premium is order in only.

I do wonder if there would be a market for a premium tyre centre in large cities that only sticks premium branded tyres? If there's enough turnover of enthusiasts and people who actually care to make it viable, while still being able to cater to others who have no care what they put on their car.
 
CoL crisis you know! Our tyre place at work mainly sells sub £50 tyres. A hell of a lot of sub £20 tyres too!

Doesn't really make sense when the tyres last half as long and increase your fuel consumption and risk of crashing your car into a ditch though!
 
Doesn't really make sense when the tyres last half as long and increase your fuel consumption and risk of crashing your car into a ditch though!


When you are skint, you are skint. Some cars come in with almost bald tyres before the get swapped. Its the Sam Vimes "Boots" theory of socioeconomic unfairness which is an economic theory that people in poverty have to buy cheap and subpar products that need to be replaced repeatedly, proving more expensive in the long run than more expensive items.

The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. ... A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet

This theory has been applied to energy costs, the higher costs of renting vs owning a house, higher interest rates for loans to impoverished people, the effects of food poverty on educational advancement, and healthcare costs, using a launderette because you can't afford your own washing machine, etc. It's one of my favourite theories

So applied to "poor" people running cars, they will end up over time paying more for their tyres and getting less performance/safety from them.
 
There might be an element of that in some cases, but a lot of people just suck at budgeting and managing money, or don't understand the benefits of a better tyre, and think a tyre is just a tyre.

Some people will put ditchfinders on anything. I've lost track of how many times I've seen Linglongs or some other tat on a Porsche or an M3 etc.
 
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There might be an element of that in some cases, but a lot of people just suck at budgeting and managing money, or don't understand the benefits of a better tyre, and think a tyre is just a tyre.

Some people will put ditchfinders on anything. I've lost track of how many times I've seen Linglongs or some other tat on a Porsche or an M3 etc.
When I see something that's not Good Year, Michelin or Continental on a performance car it immediately sets off alarm bells. What else have they skimped on if they can't afford good tyres? When it's from a dealer, that annoys me most of all. I get that anything spent is lost profit, but any real potential buyer will either want them changed before buying or will insist on a discount to give them money to change them almost immediately.
 
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