**Unofficial Tyre Thread**

[Rroff]

Don't disagree with any of that but still doesn't explain why the second tyre in your example performs better than the first tyre in most real world scenarios.

Not really sure what you are struggling with - in most real world scenarios where you need to brake moderately hard through to emergency braking are often more complicated than just a straight line stop on a regular surface and so the second tyre can be far more composed and controlled in those circumstances making for a safer situation - it isn't necessarily always the case but it is not an unusual story that the tyre which stops the quickest doesn't necessarily have the best performance where more finesse is required.

I might not be able to explain it very well but I've driven a lot of miles on a lot of different tyres and seen it for myself.

 

[Kenai]

Not really sure what you are struggling with

Why the second tyre in your example is going to be better than the first tyre in 'most' real world scenarios.

I get that a single synthetic test can't reflect absolutely all possible conditions you might encounter in reality but i'm not following the logic that means a worse performing tyre in a particular test therefore is better in most real world scenarios.

 

[Rroff]

Why the second tyre in your example is going to be better than the first tyre in 'most' real world scenarios.

I get that a single synthetic test can't reflect absolutely all possible conditions you might encounter in reality but i'm not following the logic that means a worse performing tyre in a particular test therefore is better in most real world scenarios.

I'm not saying every time the second tyre would always be better, maybe my wording wasn't the greatest originally though I did liberally sprinkle "might" in there, but there are a lot of cases where the best performing tyre in a wet full stop synthetic test isn't actually the best out of the other close performing tyres for bringing you to a controlled stop in the most common real world situations where you will be braking hard.

 

[Kenai]

I'm not saying every time the second tyre would always be better

Maybe that's where i'm getting lost then, because that was how I read it, hence repeatedly asking 'why would it be?' whilst you're answering with how it could be. I don't disagree it could be, I just didn't get where the idea was coming from that it would be in most scenarios.

 

[Rroff]

Maybe that's where i'm getting lost then, because that was how I read it, hence repeatedly asking 'why would it be?' whilst you're answering with how it could be. I don't disagree it could be, I just didn't get where the idea was coming from that it would be in most scenarios.

Maybe I'm not qualified to say most would be - but I've driven on and/or own(ed) and done a lot of miles on ultra performance through to off-road tyres and often owned several of the tyres from roundups and found what actually is the safest/best tyre for things like wet braking, beyond just a straight line test, doesn't necessarily stack up as per the synthetic benchmark order - though obviously there can be other factors there like just using a different car to the the one used in the testing.

 

[ver01@]

Maybe I'm not qualified to say most would be - but I've driven on and/or own(ed) and done a lot of miles on ultra performance through to off-road tyres and often owned several of the tyres from roundups and found what actually is the safest/best tyre for things like wet braking, beyond just a straight line test, doesn't necessarily stack up as per the synthetic benchmark order - though obviously there can be other factors there like just using a different car to the the one used in the testing.

I can think of at least a dozen of different variables from the above that would make any direct comparison invalid.