**Unofficial Tyre Thread**

Armageus said:
Maybe not, but I bet it's a lot closer than you think, and in wet/slushy conditions I would think a PS3 would come out ahead (hence why they haven't compared it, and used an EnergySaver instead)
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They always seen to deliberately exclude UHP tyres from these tests so the results end up saying wow look how much better than a budget tyre they are in the wet..
 
[TW]Fox;28580820 said:
They always seen to deliberately exclude UHP tyres from these tests so the results end up saying wow look how much better than a budget tyre they are in the wet..
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This is what concerns me too, however with tyres 215/55/16 on the mondeo and 195/45/16 on the fiesta, not many performance tyres are available.
Whilst the EnergySaver is far from setting the records for high performance, it is not a bad tyre by any stretch.
 
Dreadi said:
Sorry, forgot to add the size! They are 205/55/16 so have just been looking at that size.
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What did you go with in the end?

I'll be looking to replace all 4 of mine before the winter.

So looking for recommendations in same size (205/55/R16).

Have mostly been running Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance.

Alternatives suggested above seem to be:

Continental Premium Contact 5
Uniroyal Rainsport3s
Dunlop SportMaxx RT's
Yokohama Advan Sport V105


I'm mainly looking for decent performance in the wet, especially heading into the winter.

The Goodyears do seem to be well recommended on that front, which is why I've gone for them the last few times. But I've not been overly impressed with them so far, mostly because they seem to wear pretty quickly - getting roughly 4-6 months, 8-10k miles on the front, more on the back. I'd have expected more considering it's a fairly mediocre 1.8 petrol Focus, which admittedly isn't being driven by a pensioner, but it's also not being pushed particularly hard.

So what would folk recommend which is available in 205/55/16?

Anything which is likely to perform better than the Goodyear's in the wet?
Anything which is likely to last a bit longer?
 
I have had Continentals PC5, the Uniroyals and the Dunlops off your list, in 215/55/16

The Continentals lasted longest, (not by a huge amount) the Dunlops quietest, and Uniroyals the best in the wet. Would purchase any one of them again, however for me, 215/55/16 increases the price of continentals and dunlops to nearly £30 per tyre than the Uniroyals, and they are not £30 each better than them. None of those are bad tyres, cant comment on the Yokohamas, as i have never had them!


div0 said:
What did you go with in the end?

I'll be looking to replace all 4 of mine before the winter.

So looking for recommendations in same size (205/55/R16).

Have mostly been running Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance.

Alternatives suggested above seem to be:

Continental Premium Contact 5
Uniroyal Rainsport3s
Dunlop SportMaxx RT's
Yokohama Advan Sport V105


I'm mainly looking for decent performance in the wet, especially heading into the winter.

The Goodyears do seem to be well recommended on that front, which is why I've gone for them the last few times. But I've not been overly impressed with them so far, mostly because they seem to wear pretty quickly - getting roughly 4-6 months, 8-10k miles on the front, more on the back. I'd have expected more considering it's a fairly mediocre 1.8 petrol Focus, which admittedly isn't being driven by a pensioner, but it's also not being pushed particularly hard.

So what would folk recommend which is available in 205/55/16?

Anything which is likely to perform better than the Goodyear's in the wet?
Anything which is likely to last a bit longer?
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It seems the Rainsports don't last as long as some others but also come at a far lower price point.

205/50/17 tyres come out at £65 each! amazing price for an amazing tyre
 
div0 said:
What did you go with in the end?

I'll be looking to replace all 4 of mine before the winter.

So looking for recommendations in same size (205/55/R16).

Have mostly been running Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance.

Alternatives suggested above seem to be:

Continental Premium Contact 5
Uniroyal Rainsport3s
Dunlop SportMaxx RT's
Yokohama Advan Sport V105


I'm mainly looking for decent performance in the wet, especially heading into the winter.

The Goodyears do seem to be well recommended on that front, which is why I've gone for them the last few times. But I've not been overly impressed with them so far, mostly because they seem to wear pretty quickly - getting roughly 4-6 months, 8-10k miles on the front, more on the back. I'd have expected more considering it's a fairly mediocre 1.8 petrol Focus, which admittedly isn't being driven by a pensioner, but it's also not being pushed particularly hard.

So what would folk recommend which is available in 205/55/16?

Anything which is likely to perform better than the Goodyear's in the wet?
Anything which is likely to last a bit longer?
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I'm just about to put two Yokohama's on the rear of a 2.0 focus, so relatively similar. Like you I'm coming from the Goodyears and personally I've found them a bit too soft and not great with standing water. Very comfortable though, but I'm willing to forgive a bit of that for greater performance.

Having only one axle with them won't give me a 100% picture on what they're like, but I'll update the thread with some thoughts in time.
 
I like the PSS, but they are certainly quite a noisy tyre on some motorway surfaces (M27 sections are a key example) - I'm wondering if next time I should switch back to AS2 as I was really impressed with their grip and noise performance.
 
I've got a set of MPSS and they are very very good. So much grip! But yeh the very occasional motorway surface is noisy. It's still nothing to write home about though.
 
Yes, PSS are a bit noisy, but they offer incredible grip and they wear extremely well. I've just had to change my front set due to a pothole incident at 14,500 miles and they still had almost 6mm tread on them (and they've also done a track day and 4 laps of the Nordschleife)!
 
Havana_UK said:
Yes, PSS are a bit noisy, but they offer incredible grip and they wear extremely well. I've just had to change my front set due to a pothole incident at 14,500 miles and they still had almost 6mm tread on them (and they've also done a track day and 4 laps of the Nordschleife)!
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Got MPSS on my car and will get about 12-15k out of them (275/35/ZR20and 305/30/ZR20). Cant comment on comfort or noise as my car is not really quiet or comfortable. I'm told the MPSS make a huge difference over the RFT's though. In fact on my old BMW Assymetric 2's were a lot better than the Bridgestone RFT's apart from dry grip.
 
chrislusty said:
I have had Continentals PC5, the Uniroyals and the Dunlops off your list, in 215/55/16

The Continentals lasted longest, (not by a huge amount) the Dunlops quietest, and Uniroyals the best in the wet.
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Thanks, good to have some input from someone who's had first hand experience of several of them. I'll see how pricing for each works out.

Diagro said:
It seems the Rainsports don't last as long as some others but also come at a far lower price point.
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Yeah if one, or other comes out significantly cheaper than the others, then I'd probably be tempted to give those a try first.

MORE SPEED said:
I'm just about to put two Yokohama's on the rear of a 2.0 focus, so relatively similar. Like you I'm coming from the Goodyears and personally I've found them a bit too soft and not great with standing water. Very comfortable though, but I'm willing to forgive a bit of that for greater performance.

Having only one axle with them won't give me a 100% picture on what they're like, but I'll update the thread with some thoughts in time.
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You experience of the Goodyears sounds a lot like mine. Would be interested to hear how you get on with the Yokohamas.

mrk said:
I like the PSS...
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Gaygle said:
I've got a set of MPSS and they are very very good. So much grip! But yeh the very occasional motorway surface is noisy. It's still nothing to write home about though.
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I assume here you're talking about Mitchelin Pilot Super Sports? Not sure they do them in my size unfortunately, as from what you're all saying they sound promising otherwise.
 
[TW]Fox;28580820 said:
They always seen to deliberately exclude UHP tyres from these tests so the results end up saying wow look how much better than a budget tyre they are in the wet..
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They always do it, which i strongly presume is because if they put them up against the Pilot Super Sport or PS3, they'd lose. I don't know why people are suddenly going barmy over all season tyres now either.

A) We in England only have 1 season fot 99% of the time - fairly mild and wet.

B) All season tyres have been around for ever. And they suck. They claim to be a good in all conditions, whereas they actually are significantly worse than a summer tyre in warmer temps and dry/wet roads and significantly worse than winter tyres in snow and very low temperature conditions.
 
I have to say I echo the comments about the noisy PSSs. I've noticed quite a lot of tyre roar with my Michelins, but with a 4-pot tractor engine up front and massive mirrors giving a fair amount of wind noise, it's not a major issue.

Thankfully the bog standard audio system in the A6 is pretty good!
 
div0 said:
You experience of the Goodyears sounds a lot like mine. Would be interested to hear how you get on with the Yokohamas.
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Had the Yokohama's on the rear for the last couple of weeks. Hard to give any impression on grip levels other than they have more grip than the Goodyear's on the front.

Noise is barely noticeable, although a slight rumble at motorway speeds over the Goodyear's.

The car overall feels a bit stiffer in the rear and as such has meant the front end can be a bit wallowy in comparison. They certainly have stiffer sidewalls.

Will be interesting to see how I get on in a couple of weeks when the remaining two get switched to Yokohama's.
 
Can anyone recommend the best place to buy tyres from online with fitting?

I'd like to avoid tyreshopper as they use National Tyres which I haven't had a good experience with in the past.

Thanks.
 
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