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You try finding tyres for 15" wheels thenIt's just a shame they don't do it in an 18"
It's basically winters, crap, crap, lots more crap, AD08R etc
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It's basically winters, crap, crap, lots more crap, AD08R etc
I'm just finding that out myself. Ditching my 17" wheels as, IMO, they make the ride too firm and putting my original 15" alloys back on. Problem is they take 195/65 or 205/60 tyres which bascially means I get "touring" tyres, all season tyres or winter tyres. (Coming from goodyear AS2's all round)
Presently stuck deciding between Pirelli P1 CV, continental PC5, uniroyal RE3 and michelin Crossclimate.
Presently stuck deciding between Pirelli P1 CV, continental PC5, uniroyal RE3 and michelin Crossclimate.
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Yea, but they're horribly over rated. They perform well enough in the wet, they average in the dry, the sidewalls are to soft to give any decent feel/feedback and they wear horrifically fast. A pair of rears lasted me at best 4k miles before I added another 130bhp and 110ft/lbs of torque.
To put that into perspective a pair of AD08R lasted 7k miles with the turbo, lots of burnouts (3 RWYB days at pod) and a track day at Curborough. The only area they perform worse is in the wet
To be fair... Your use is a little ott. What do you expect any tyre to do?
Rainsport 3 has been my go to choice for a few years. Never let me down. Especially the XL ones with firmer side walls.
Indeed they do wear slightly faster than other brands, but I'm the wet grip pays for itself imo.
Rainsport 3 has been my go to choice for a few years. Never let me down. Especially the XL ones with firmer side walls.
Indeed they do wear slightly faster than other brands, but I'm the wet grip pays for itself imo.
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My usage wasn't OTT when I had Rainsports fitted that was back when the MX5 was completely stock and only road use. The point was the AD08R absolutely abused lasted twice as long as Rainsports given a relatively easy life.
+1. Rainsport3 is total garbage. Wet grip is the only area of note, in every other aspect they are terrible. Thing is, the likes of Eagle F1, PS4, Contisport6 still have them beat in the wet anyway, are hugely better all round, and will last twice as long so the half price Unis are a false economy anyway.
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Ugh Falken. I put 4 of the FK510 on my Toyota after seeing them placing very high in tests and priced keenly. I've not felt so duped since I bought Eagle F1s, all grip no handling. Car used to be on some kind of Mayrun tyres and it drove great, lovely tight handling, now it's like I'm sailing a 70s Caddilac along. My god I can't understand how tyre manufacturers can get it so wrong but these type of tyres that seem made out of wrigleys extra are prolific in the market.
You got written proof of any of this?
I had rainsport 2's in 2010 in 225/45R17 fitment, not sure how many miles they lasted but it wasn't much, even though they were on the car for nearly 5 years. They performed well otherwise. Rainsports are not available in my profile for 15", hence why my list is somewhat limited. Whatever I get has to deal with a 1.4 ton FWD car with 265hp/275lb.ft, not that I use that power a great deal.
I ran Rainsport3 on my Mondeo for years and I personally found them good in most conditions. I've also ran Eagle F1 asymmetric 2s and they were marginally better but not massively noticeable on a Mondeo.
Fox wouldn't dream of buying anything from uniroyal so I'm not you can be sure his comments aren't from experience.
If they were as good as is made out, then Car manufacturers would be all over them to get a deal to have them as OEM fitment (I mean half the price of Pirelli/Dunlop/Bridgestone/Michelin/Goodyear/Continental would be a huge saving that they could profit from)
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You also can't expect a mid range tyre released in 2013 to compete with UHP tyres released in the last year without being somewhat delusional
Or maybe all of the brands you listed have vastly larger marketing budgets, vastly greater manufacturing capability and vastly greater industry reputations.
You are naive if you think any smaller firm like Uniroyal would have any hope in competing for business against Michelin.
I've been wanting PS4S on my Megane but I cant justify the price premium.
I can get Conti sportcontact 6 for £152 each fitted. The add £60 cashback and about 3% topcashback the price is under £600.
On the other hand PS4s are £178 fitted. With no good deals on.
I know the ps4s are a better tyre but the price difference is massive
Don't forget though the PS4S will no doubt last a lot longer than the Conti's meaning in the long run you save money. I have abused the PS4S on the rear of my car, line lock and some drifting, they still show zero sign of wear, which is a big compliment for them. Same kind of abuse on the Pzero would have seen around 2mm worn of them, they smoked with ease.
Or maybe they Uniroyal are just unable to supply anything "good enough" to meet Manufacturer specifications at a suitable price point?
Honestly if Manufacturers can save any money on "hidden costs" like Tyres (* hidden in the sense that most people who buy a new car aren't going to complain about which brand of tyres are on it) then you are naive to think they won't. If VW could save £10 a tyre on a Golf, then that would be ~£430000 saved in a month based on sales.
Hankook and Kumho are relatively small firms, but have recently started to supply car manufacturers as OE.
http://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releases/hankook-tyres-original-fitment-new-audi-tt-tts-models/
http://kumhotyre.co.uk/kumho-news/major-boost-for-kumhos-european-oe-tyre-supply/
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https://www.smmt.co.uk/vehicle-data/car-registrations/