**Unofficial Tyre Thread**

[ShivP]

Hello all, how much would you expect to pay to replace with new, balance, and dispose of old tyres.
I ahve 4x tyres to fit to 4x wheels, off the car

Been asking for quotes for 'at the home' services but costs seem mental, £150+, given they don't even need to remove or fit the wheels to the car, so may need to take them to a garage

 

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Hello all, how much would you expect to pay to replace with new, balance, and dispose of old tyres.
I ahve 4x tyres to fit to 4x wheels, off the car

Been asking for quotes for 'at the home' services but costs seem mental, £150+, given they don't even need to remove or fit the wheels to the car, so may need to take them to a garage

Just try a few garages on dropping the wheels to them.

I think the days of bunging them £30-50 cash are long goen unfortunately.

 

[ShivP]

Just try a few garages on dropping the wheels to them.

I think the days of bunging them £30-50 cash are long goen unfortunately.

Thought so.
I have a friendly cash garage, but bit of a trek and probably 2 trips as the car won't fit 4 tyres and 4 wheels !

 

[Mysterae_]

New tyres time for my BYD Seal, not impressed with the less than 18k miles on the rears (Continental Eco Contact 6 Q). Heavy car, yada yada . I should have rotated them earlier, I'll know next time.

I've always sworn by Michelin CrossClimate 2 because of the snow we get in the north of Scotland but the car's AWD so may not be needed? With that in mind I've got a shortlist of sorts.

Going for sound / EV efficiency:
Continental Eco Contact 6 Q - £198
Hankook iON EVO Sound Absorber - £215

Or all season capability:
Continental WinterContact 8 S - £187
Michelin CrossClimate 2 - £215

Any thoughts or recommendations?

 

[Alibaba99]

New tyres time for my BYD Seal, not impressed with the less than 18k miles on the rears (Continental Eco Contact 6 Q). Heavy car, yada yada . I should have rotated them earlier, I'll know next time.

I've always sworn by Michelin CrossClimate 2 because of the snow we get in the north of Scotland but the car's AWD so may not be needed? With that in mind I've got a shortlist of sorts.

Going for sound / EV efficiency:
Continental Eco Contact 6 Q - £198
Hankook iON EVO Sound Absorber - £215

Or all season capability:
Continental WinterContact 8 S - £187
Michelin CrossClimate 2 - £215

Any thoughts or recommendations?

Does the AWD magically enable your front tyres to grip when you need to steer or improve the braking so that it actually works in the snow.

Getting a car moving is one thing, you still need to be able to control it once going.

 

[Mysterae_]

Does the AWD magically enable your front tyres to grip when you need to steer or improve the braking so that it actually works in the snow.

Getting a car moving is one thing, you still need to be able to control it once going.

I'm not sure whether to agree or argue with you....erm, yes?

 

[LowEndTorque]

I'm not sure whether to agree or argue with you....erm, yes?

I would personally go with the CrossClimates. It is a bonus to have AWD, with good tyres you will be safer and have seen everybody swear by them too. This is considering the amount of snow you get up North.

 

[Nabinium]

How about the CrossClimate 3s? They're a marked improvement from the CC2s I believe. Are the CC3s compatible/available for your tyre size?

 

[Rroff]

Does the AWD magically enable your front tyres to grip when you need to steer or improve the braking so that it actually works in the snow.

Getting a car moving is one thing, you still need to be able to control it once going.

Not quite sure what you are saying, and it is a bit more complex than AWD vs 2WD but I've seen loads of instances where the Tiguan w/ 4Motion gets going and stays composed in conditions where other cars are struggling, granted being RWD without a lot of weight at the back (unless loaded) isn't a great starting point but the difference even with weight in the back is massive with my pickup between RWD and enabling 4WD even with summer tyres never mind winter/all-season.

 

[tom_e]

Not quite sure what you are saying, and it is a bit more complex than AWD vs 2WD but I've seen loads of instances where the Tiguan w/ 4Motion gets going and stays composed in conditions where other cars are struggling, granted being RWD without a lot of weight at the back (unless loaded) isn't a great starting point but the difference even with weight in the back is massive with my pickup between RWD and enabling 4WD even with summer tyres never mind winter/all-season.

He's saying AWD may help keep you going in snow as you've got the extra 2 driven wheels but it doesn't mean it'll help you steer or stop if you decide to fit rubbish tyres to it.

 

[Rroff]

He's saying AWD may help keep you going in snow as you've got the extra 2 driven wheels but it doesn't mean it'll help you steer or stop if you decide to fit rubbish tyres to it.

While a lot does ultimately come down to the tyre I think people are too quick to write off the difference between 2WD and forms of 4WD in my experience - I've had a few instances where 2WD with summer tyres was just a lost cause but 4WD being careful you could safely proceed. Though if dealing with proper ice all bets are off unless you have proper winter or ideally ice tyres.

 

[Mysterae_]

While a lot does ultimately come down to the tyre I think people are too quick to write off the difference between 2WD and forms of 4WD in my experience - I've had a few instances where 2WD with summer tyres was just a lost cause but 4WD being careful you could safely proceed. Though if dealing with proper ice all bets are off unless you have proper winter or ideally ice tyres.

This sums up my thinking. Last winter the Seal with the Conti's managed fine in the little snow we had, not sure if I put it in to snow mode or not. My previous 640d was a soggy biscuit in the snow until I put the CC2's on, I never got stuck again. I'm impressed with the CC2's but wondered if they would be suited to an EV - the rapid acceleration wear, rolling resistance, noise being the biggest concerns.

How about the CrossClimate 3s? They're a marked improvement from the CC2s I believe. Are the CC3s compatible/available for your tyre size?

I had ruled the CC3's out because I couldn't find them in my tyre size, but I was searching on etyres earlier and low and behold, they're now available . Cheaper than the CC2's as well. That's my decision made then, I'll give them a try. It'll be interesting to find out how they fare compared to the Conti's fitted presently (which I don't rate that much).

 

[Rroff]

I'm impressed with the CC2's but wondered if they would be suited to an EV - the rapid acceleration wear

I've not personally noticed any difference wear wise, but those all-season tyre patterns like the CrossClimates can be a little iffy on vehicles with a lot of torque but nothing terrible - if you say want to nip out of a junction quickly they definitely aren't as sharp as summer / performance tyres but it is pretty minor.

 

[tom_e]

I'm running the conti all seasons on my ID3, rears are down to a touch over 3mm in 15k miles but I do like to win the traffic light GP when possible

Efficiency is pretty much unaffected, noise is no worse than our Kona EV running the oem summer tyres and even in the 30+ degrees heat where I thought they might start to come unstuck a bit they've still been solid.

 

[shifty_uk]

Any of you clued up people got recommended replacements for P Zeros? Pilot Sport 4 or 5s seem to get decent reviews?

Got another bulge in a PZ4s, second one(on opposite side) in 6 months. First was definitely a pothole, no idea about this one, dealer spotted it during an inspection

Lost a bit of confidence in them but I'll replace it like for like for now as the other front is nearly new.

Thinking I'll switch brands in pairs as they wear out, starting with the rears. Always stuck with manufacturer recommended in the past.

Other complaint with the P Zeros is the back end gets tail happy at the slightest sniff of a cold or wet day

Size is 225/40/19/Y93 if that helps

 

[ChrisD.]

Any of you clued up people got recommended replacements for P Zeros?

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[Alibaba99]

I've not personally noticed any difference wear wise, but those all-season tyre patterns like the CrossClimates can be a little iffy on vehicles with a lot of torque but nothing terrible - if you say want to nip out of a junction quickly they definitely aren't as sharp as summer / performance tyres but it is pretty minor.

The tread pattern on the Cross Climates has been designed to stiffen the tread when trying to work with competing design parameters. I would probably suggest that if you are pulling out of a junction and having to boot the car so hard you can determine differences between a summer tyre with snow capability and a summer tyre that perhaps you should wait for the oncoming car to pass before exiting.

Tyre reviews has just done a Michelin test comparing their best in class tyres, CC3/3 Sport, Primacy 5, PS5, PS4S and the cup tyres. The CC3Sport comes out very well compared to the Primacy and PS5.

 

[Rroff]

I would probably suggest that if you are pulling out of a junction and having to boot the car so hard you can determine differences between a summer tyre with snow capability and a summer tyre that perhaps you should wait for the oncoming car to pass before exiting.

It was just an example - but if you are getting going with a vehicle which can put down a lot of torque off the line as many EVs can do, especially anything with a bit of weight and a higher centre of gravity, you will notice the difference even in mildly spirited driving vs a decent summer or performance tyre - you don't have to be driving recklessly to notice it.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Eagle F1s on the mini, not much more than expensive than the rest, but so much better than the Goodyear eco crap that came off.

 

[NickK]

It was just an example - but if you are getting going with a vehicle which can put down a lot of torque off the line as many EVs can do, especially anything with a bit of weight and a higher centre of gravity, you will notice the difference even in mildly spirited driving vs a decent summer or performance tyre - you don't have to be driving recklessly to notice it.

Just thinking about the pattern the other day. When in mud or soft ground, the wheel rotates and the tire pattern causes the displacement to both sides. Essentially it digs to find harder ground to work against.

Stopping no idea