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Upgrade from 1070 to 2070 and performance lost.

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Urgh, i hate reinstalling windows :p



Noooo, i hate reinstalling windows :p




650w

Cpu pulls 150 ish, gpu while overclocked is 370 ish
Feel free to continue looking for a way to fix things online then. Doing a clean install when browsing on phone or iPad can be done in an hour or so. Much quicker imo.
 
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Just FYI I don't know what cooling you are running but I got more out of my 2070S perf wise by under volting… might be worth playing with. Power draw usually stays below 90% but clocks are higher due to more stable boost. Stock but with power and thermal slider maxed it would drop down to mid-low 1900's even with fans at max during gaming while pulling around 112%... undervolted it will happily sit at 2010-2025 all day long.

While I don't think it would explain the problem here it may not be helping you get the most out of your card.
 
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370W? My 2080Ti running at 2100/8000 draws less than 300W.

Just how OC’d is your 2070S!?!

I meant 270, my bad :p Its around 220 as standard.


Just FYI I don't know what cooling you are running but I got more out of my 2070S perf wise by under volting… might be worth playing with. Power draw usually stays below 90% but clocks are higher due to more stable boost. Stock but with power and thermal slider maxed it would drop down to mid-low 1900's even with fans at max during gaming while pulling around 112%... undervolted it will happily sit at 2010-2025 all day long.

While I don't think it would explain the problem here it may not be helping you get the most out of your card.

Running power limit slider on full, core voltage on +2 and core clock is +90 and memory is +700. It seems quite happy in ark at a constant 2055mhz at 60 degrees with 30% fan speed and boosts up to 2090 in other demanding games.
 
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Running power limit slider on full, core voltage on +2 and core clock is +90 and memory is +700. It seems quite happy in ark at a constant 2055mhz at 60 degrees with 30% fan speed and boosts up to 2090 in other demanding games.
If I am reading this correctly you are overclocking the card? What happens when things are factory speeds and I assume you are using some monitor/tweaking program (like MSI Afterburner)? Uninstall that software and reinstall drivers via DDU.
 
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Same pc, same benchmark, same settings. 1070 vs 2070 super. not sure why the minimum frames are lower though, couldn't tell they had happened during the benchmark.

Well, bit of a thread revival but new 5600x, ddr4 at 3600 and a fresh windows install later. Same 2070super



I think my 4790k and ddr3 was holding me back a bit in ROTR and it gets much better scores now. I doubt anyone cares but i'm happy now and thought the thread could do with a conclusion.
 
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Nice result, was a CPU bottleneck definitely.

Always makes me laugh when people say 4core/8thread CPU will be ok with modern GPUs.

My 4790k’s soldiering on thanks. Had a huge iq uplift in everything I play on 60hz screen moving from a 1070 to 3070 between 1440 and 4K

ACC
RDR2
MSFS
Cp2077
DCS

MSFS and CP are still mainly GPU limited.

I know things would improve with the 5900x I’m thinking about but in no urgent hurry
 
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My 4790k’s soldiering on thanks. Had a huge iq uplift in everything I play on 60hz screen moving from a 1070 to 3070 between 1440 and 4K

ACC
RDR2
MSFS
Cp2077
DCS

MSFS and CP are still mainly GPU limited.

I know things would improve with the 5900x I’m thinking about but in no urgent hurry

In high fps (tbf you probably wont notice on 60hz screen) games i was having stuttering, fps drops little micro pauses and the whole thing felt remarkably unsmooth. Going to the 5600x and all of that is gone. I just get way more stable frames now. Rendering clips for youtube is literally half the time now which is insane.

You can see if you compare my SOFTR benches it's a 10%+ boost to mins, max, avg, 95% across the board. Using my 120hz monitor, going from 90fps with drops and stuttering to 110-120fps and smooth feels like a night and day difference. Heck, with the 4790k ROTR had a min frame at one point of 6fps. the 5600x in the same section had a min of 41. thats bonkers.
 
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Nice result, was a CPU bottleneck definitely.

Always makes me laugh when people say 4core/8thread CPU will be ok with modern GPUs.

Not a CPU bottleneck something else wrong - I went from a GTX1070 to a GTX3070 with a 4820K and saw a huge uplift in everything, then swapped to a 1650 V2 which has helped in games like Cyberpunk.

4 core / 8 thread still holds up in most games except a small smattering of newer ones.
 
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In high fps (tbf you probably wont notice on 60hz screen) games i was having stuttering, fps drops little micro pauses and the whole thing felt remarkably unsmooth. Going to the 5600x and all of that is gone. I just get way more stable frames now. Rendering clips for youtube is literally half the time now which is insane.
I would say it was that AMD gaming ram bottlenecking the intel system ;)

:p Not sure if sarcasm or not but the tech specs were:

Capacity: 16 GB / 2 x 8 GB (Dual Channel)
Clock: 2400 MHz
Latency: CL 11-12-12-31
Voltage: 1.65 V

Tighter timings than corsair vengeance pro that runs at 11-13-13-31.
 
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Not a CPU bottleneck something else wrong - I went from a GTX1070 to a GTX3070 with a 4820K and saw a huge uplift in everything, then swapped to a 1650 V2 which has helped in games like Cyberpunk.

4 core / 8 thread still holds up in most games except a small smattering of newer ones.

You will see a big improvement, but you won't see AS BIG of an improvement as the card is truly capable of. So swapping from a gtx1070 to a 3070 you'd be getting 80% of the 3070's fps instead of 100%.
 
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Let’s put it like this....

you have a 4790k and a 1070.

someone offers you a full platform upgrade to say a 5900x or a 3070...which one would you take assuming you couldn’t sell it?

it’s a complete no brainer. The extra £800+ outlay of the new platform would be nearly double the GPU outlay for much less gaming benefit. Even if you just said 5600x it’s still £500+.

I just don’t see the essential nature of moving from a 4790k. Very desirable yes, necessary and worth the money...not really otherwise I would have done it by now.
 
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In high fps (tbf you probably wont notice on 60hz screen) games i was having stuttering, fps drops little micro pauses and the whole thing felt remarkably unsmooth. Going to the 5600x and all of that is gone. I just get way more stable frames now. Rendering clips for youtube is literally half the time now which is insane.

You can see if you compare my SOFTR benches it's a 10%+ boost to mins, max, avg, 95% across the board. Using my 120hz monitor, going from 90fps with drops and stuttering to 110-120fps and smooth feels like a night and day difference. Heck, with the 4790k ROTR had a min frame at one point of 6fps. the 5600x in the same section had a min of 41. thats bonkers.

That’s what happens when you unlock the above 60hz Pandora’s box.
 
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