US election 2012

[Freddie1980]

AFAIK Obama actually did very little to court the Latino vote and Romney went out of his way multiple times to talk to Latino groups and generally said everything they wanted to hear.

Ultimately what they say again doesn't matter, democrats are pro immigration, not racist and will help the Latino's/blacks, because that was more true, in a way, for the majority of the past 100 years. Ultimately Romney was saying and promising, and appearing at plenty of Latino events, he heavily courted their vote and got nothing, because Democrats are pro minority and Republicans hate them. That's all that matters, a long term image of what they are, based purely off this election Romney spoke to and said he'd do more for Latino's than Obama, yet Obama gets their vote.

People don't vote on sensible issues or what they hear, its negative add's, big stories to make either candidate look bad, and generations of having an idea of both parties stuffed into your head.

You say Romney didn't get anything back from the Latino vote but how does Romney's share of the Latino vote compare to that of John McCain and George Bush. Higher/lower?

It takes years and years to win the trust of groups of people and the likely hood is the Republicans will only every get maybe 40% of the vote but that would be enough if there core support holds up.

 

[Freddie1980]

Romney still got 48.1% of the popular vote. Republicans aren't losing support, they just fail to present more compelling candidates for the office of president.

To be fair I thought Romney was a much better candidate then John McCain.

 

[estebanrey]

Latino are groaning by 2 % every 4 years.

What about?

 

[TheSgtDK]

What about?

Mitt Romney's tan.

 

[Steedie]

This made me laugh

 

[Tummy]

Watching the Fox presenters go from smug and self-confident to first uncertainty and then disbelief was some of the best television I've seen in a long time

heh,

Enjoyed that.

I'm so pleased that Obama won. I actually don't understand why anyone would vote Romney anyway, the man would have taken the United States back at least a hundred years with his backwards thinking and backwards republican party.

Obama isn't perfect, he's a damn sight better then the alternative.

 

[Tummy]

This made me laugh

Brilliant! hahaha

 

[malfunkshun]

Brilliant! hahaha

We laughed.

 

[Flibster]

heh,

Enjoyed that.

I'm so pleased that Obama won. I actually don't understand why anyone would vote Romney anyway, the man would have taken the United States back at least a hundred years with his backwards thinking and backwards republican party.

Obama isn't perfect, he's a damn sight better then the alternative.

One of the best things I saw in the week before the election was.

Americans: This Sunday, remember to set your clocks back 1 hour.
This Tuesday, remember not to set your country back 50 years.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

To be fair, Obama has also suggested that military intervention in Iran is a possibility.

He has but he will explore diplomacy a lot further than Mitt Romney.

I can't understand why Romney wanted to increase military spending. Even with Obama's cuts it will still be far and away the biggest and most advanced military.

 

[RDM]

I can't understand why Romney wanted to increase military spending.

He probably didn't actually want to, but saying he would cut military spending whilst the US is still involved in a war would lose him core republican support. There is little real difference between the two candidates on foreign policy as far as I can see.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

Military spending currently exceeds 700 billion USD per year and accounts for over half of global defence spending. Even your hawks surely see room to trim such a colossal amount of public money ?

 

[Theophany]

To be fair I thought Romney was a much better candidate then John McCain.

Way to set the bar low.

 

[Tefal]

Military spending currently exceeds 700 billion USD per year and accounts for over half of global defence spending. Even your hawks surely see room to trim such a colossal amount of public money ?

but its actually a very small percentage of public money. the USA's massive financial power makes absolute figures like what you're posting very misrepresentative.

for example they're actually moderately far down on the list of military spending as a %.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

They would be down the list as a percentage as their GDP is far higher but it is still a huge amount by any standards. It accounts for over 50% of total military spending worldwide.

 

[rexehuk]

To be fair, Obama has also suggested that military intervention in Iran is a possibility.

Yes... but he is exhausting other methods before he does that.

Romney's view was reduce the deficit by spending more on military and showing them who's boss. Not exactly the strategy to take when Russia is on their side.

He was the type of guy who would have done something stupid - Look at the way he commented on the Olympics in the UK, fantastic at building relationships with allies and he was proven wrong by a large margin.

Just seemed to run his mouth to sound positive and muscular, but that is most likely down to the US election process... it's a TV show.

My faith is restored in the US ability to see beyond fox news and all of the negative media run against him.

 

[Westyfield2]

Can't say I liked either Obama or Romney.


Problem is, I bet half of Obama's voters voted for him just because he's black and so are they. And I bet half of Romney voters voted for him because Obama is black and they're white.
Americans are just stupid .

 

[lemonkettaz]

The US has been involved with more conflicts at the helm of democrat presidents than republican.

Republican seemed to be portrayed as cowboy gun slinging war mongering old time folk.


Edit: I bet a lot of votes went Obamas way because it's cool to be seen supporting him regardless of anything.

 

[Tefal]

Yes... but he is exhausting other methods before he does that.

Romney's view was reduce the deficit by spending more on military and showing them who's boss. Not exactly the strategy to take when Russia is on their side.

yeah i wouldn't worry, given his knowledge of the region he'd probably just end up invading Iraq again.

 

[StriderX]

They would be down the list as a percentage as their GDP is far higher but it is still a huge amount by any standards. It accounts for over 50% of total military spending worldwide.

Well someone has to prepare for the mass of alien butt probing.

I think it would be unwise for at least one nation not to spend such an exaggerated amount, though i am always confused at which nation is technically more advanced, as in actually using technology.

I mean you see things like Bulletstorm, the Railgun testing (promising), Laser systems, active camouflage and so on.

If we advance systems for the US alongside them, we remain neutral by proxy allowing the US to deal with all the problems themselves.