US election 2012

Moothead2 · 7 Nov 2012 at 21:10

Westyfield2 said:
Can't say I liked either Obama or Romney.

Problem is, I bet half of Obama's voters voted for him just because he's black and so are they. And I bet half of Romney voters voted for him because Obama is black and they're white.
Americans are just stupid .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20009195

Look at Utah, I wonder how that came about

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Von Smallhausen · 7 Nov 2012 at 21:18

I read an article on the US Navy testing rail guns. Frightening power.

EdGey · 7 Nov 2012 at 21:19

In which I believe BAE plays quite a big part.

Tefal · 7 Nov 2012 at 21:20

Von Smallhausen said:
I read an article on the US Navy testing rail guns. Frightening power.

BAE systems iirc has the current top one.

(the slug in the clip is deliberately hideously un aerodynamic iirc so they don't have to have a massive test range to fire it on. thats why it's such a funny shape.)

I'm sure I've read that they ant to test one on a ship in 2016.

excellent invention for crew safety though, no more magazines full of explosives, just capacitors and inert metal shells.

and a huge cost saving, cheap shells, no explosives and no 1 million a shot missiles.

swillsy · 7 Nov 2012 at 21:20

For everyone saying that Romney wanted to take America back 50 years, those were the boom years for America with massive growth compared to the slump during Obama's reign.

He isn't very cool though just very wealthy from being successful at everything apart from winning elections

estebanrey · 7 Nov 2012 at 21:23

Westyfield2 said:
Problem is, I bet half of Obama's voters voted for him just because he's black and so are they. And I bet half of Romney voters voted for him because Obama is black and they're white.
Americans are just stupid .

Being a bit generous there with your fractions.

% of White Vote
59% Romney
39% Obama

% of Black Vote
6% Romney
93% Obama

I would dare to suggest that rightly or wrongly race played a much bigger part in the black voter's mind than their white counterpart.

Raymond Lin · 7 Nov 2012 at 21:26

estebanrey said:
Being a bit generous there with your fractions.

% of White Vote
59% Romney
39% Obama

% of Black Vote
6% Romney
93% Obama

I would dare to suggest that rightly or wrongly race played a much bigger part in the black voter's mind than their white counterpart.

Some more stats for you.

1984 Walter Mondale 90% Ronald Reagan 9%
1988 Michael Dukakis 90% George H.W. Bush 10%
1992 Bill Clinton 83% George H.W. Bush 10%
1996 Bill Clinton 84% Bob Dole 12%
2000 Al Gore 90% George W. Bush 9%

Democrats could have had Hilary Clinton as a nominee and would STILL get a high percentage fo the vote. Notice 90% 3 times? None of them are black.

I mentioned before, blacks votes for democrats, always have.

Sankari · 7 Nov 2012 at 22:10

Ahleckz said:
It's not a case of "haters gonna hate", it's your weird love for Obama and you seem to think he's infallible and has done no wrong.

This is irrational ********. I don't believe Obama is infallible, I don't believe he has done no wrong, and I have a nice long list of election promises he's broken since 2008 if you'd like to see them.

If you can't contribute to an adult discussion, we'll have to put you back at the little table with the toddlers.

Freddie1980 said:
You have the most left wing US president to ever grace the oval office

Proof please. On what basis are you making that assessment? Here's a hint: it's not true. If Obama was the most left wing US president to ever grace the oval office he wouldn't still be fighting in Afghanistan, and he wouldn't still be killing Pakistanis with drones.

estebanrey · 7 Nov 2012 at 22:14

Raymond Lin said:
Some more stats for you.

1984 Walter Mondale 90% Ronald Reagan 9%
1988 Michael Dukakis 90% George H.W. Bush 10%
1992 Bill Clinton 83% George H.W. Bush 10%
1996 Bill Clinton 84% Bob Dole 12%
2000 Al Gore 90% George W. Bush 9%

Democrats could have had Hilary Clinton as a nominee and would STILL get a high percentage fo the vote. Notice 90% 3 times? None of them are black.

I mentioned before, blacks votes for democrats, always have.

Interesting, although having watched this video I don't know why....

Sankari · 7 Nov 2012 at 22:22

nitram100 said:
Romney could have taken it if he didn't pander to the evangelicals when it came to the likes of abortion and gay marriage.

On the contrary, his mistake was not pandering enough to them. McCain made the same blunder in 2008. Bush got it right in both terms.

If you're a Republican presidential nominee, you can't get anywhere without the Christian Right.

Would Romney have been bad for advances in Science? Just curious.

Yes. Obama was endorsed by multiple high profile scientists in various fields. Romney couldn't find a single one to support him.

Moothead2 · 7 Nov 2012 at 22:46

Hah, just saw a post saying Obama is going to turn the US into a communist nation

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Castiel · 7 Nov 2012 at 22:48

Moothead2 said:
Hah, just saw a post saying Obama is going to turn the US into a communist nation .

It's true, Obamacare is the child of Satan, otherwise known as the NHS....according to some US senators at least.

Moothead2 · 7 Nov 2012 at 22:54

. You'd think Kim Jong-il had been elected president the way some people talk about Obama.

dannyjo22 · 7 Nov 2012 at 23:02

Well Obama only carried out 38% of what he promised last time around. I wish I had stats to compare that to Cameron, to see if that's good or bad.

So basically almost 2/3rds of what you promise can be ****.

Sankari · 7 Nov 2012 at 23:17

dannyjo22 said:
Well Obama only carried out 38% of what he promised last time around.

More accurate to say he was only able to compete 38% of his promises in full, and he's still working on a further 20%. Here's the breakdown:

Promise Kept: 193 (38%)
Compromise: 79 (16%)
Promise Broken: 88 (17%)
Stalled: 44 (9%)
In the Works: 102 (20%)
Not yet rated: 2 (0%

(Source).

C.R.A.Z.Y · 7 Nov 2012 at 23:22

estebanrey said:
Being a bit generous there with your fractions.

% of White Vote
59% Romney
39% Obama

% of Black Vote
6% Romney
93% Obama

I would dare to suggest that rightly or wrongly race played a much bigger part in the black voter's mind than their white counterpart.

I'm not surprised you would 'Dare' suggest this considering some of the other pathetic posts I've seen from you regarding race :mad:

In the 'real world' it simply compounds the statistical FACT that in America far more black people are in poverty or on low income!!
Who would have guessed, poor people voting for a more left-wing social candidate than a right-wing anti-government candidate :rolleyes:

Moothead2 said:
. You'd think Kim Jong-il had been elected president the way some people talk about Obama.

Not that surprising considering OC's has a good few pathetic racists on-board!
Must be hard for them to accept that a black man has won 2 terms in what is arguably the most powerful country on the planet!
Obama could have performed Jesus like miracles on the American economy and they'd still find something to moan about! lol

Stewy · 7 Nov 2012 at 23:40

C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Not that surprising considering OC's has a good few pathetic racists on-board!
Must be hard for them to accept that a black man has won 2 terms in what is arguably the most powerful country on the planet!
Obama could have performed Jesus like miracles on the American economy and they'd still find something to moan about! lol

What...?

Azza · 7 Nov 2012 at 23:59

Here is that Romney Jeep ad incase anyone hasn't seen it.

Raymond Lin · 8 Nov 2012 at 00:18

Azza said:
Here is that Romney Jeep ad incase anyone hasn't seen it.

How many lies are actually in that ad?

Brookert · 8 Nov 2012 at 00:52

Raymond Lin said:
How many lies are actually in that ad?

Quite, the same Romney who wanted to let the auto industry die, to put it bluntly.

The sad thing is, that advert is probably enough to change the minds of many people. What plan does he have then? Did that advert even divulge one part of the plan?