It's cause he's.... Yea'.
US election 2012
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It's cause he's.... Yea'.
Haters gonna hate.
It's not a case of "haters gonna hate", it's your weird love for Obama and you seem to think he's infallible and has done no wrong. As for claiming that Obama has those characteristics that you claim that Romney doesn't have, that's frankly absurd - both suggesting that Obama is all of them and Romney isn't any of them.
But sure, continue thinking that he's perfect and hasn't done any wrong if that makes you feel better.
Nate Silver has been a bit of a gem, correctly predicting who would carry every state. He was also damn close on the popular vote.
I will be listening to him, next time. It was great seeing Joe Scarborough go after him for giving Obama an 86 per cent chance of winning the presidency around a week ago, but... Turns out he was every bit the beast he was in '08. Legendary.
I will be listening to him, next time. It was great seeing Joe Scarborough go after him for giving Obama an 86 per cent chance of winning the presidency around a week ago, but... Turns out he was every bit the beast he was in '08. Legendary.
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4 more years of the same I can't see how anyone can see this as good news. You have the most left wing US president to ever grace the oval office and HoR along with the senate filled with republicans baiting for blood. I can't help buy feel the 'most powerful man on the planet' will be blocked at every turn and will no doubt have to compromise on all the laws he wants to pass. That would probably explain why Obama went into this election with so few promises because he knows he can't keep them.
As for Obama I can't think of a more domestically divisive president in the last 100 years, he really did cause a lot of upset with his healthcare polices. In this next term I would like him to try and pull a fractured country back together otherwise this could be just storing up trouble for the future.
As for the republicans they seriously need to rethink there policies, this election was for the taking. They had a president who has failed to live up in most part to expectations (even if they were unreasonable), high unemployment, poor outlook and a continuing squeeze on the middle earners income yet they still couldn't convince the public that their guy was the man to fix the countries problems. The ethnic make up of the USA is changing yet the republicans still field the same policies and candidates, their losing touch and their core voting base is for ever shrinking.
As for Obama I can't think of a more domestically divisive president in the last 100 years, he really did cause a lot of upset with his healthcare polices. In this next term I would like him to try and pull a fractured country back together otherwise this could be just storing up trouble for the future.
As for the republicans they seriously need to rethink there policies, this election was for the taking. They had a president who has failed to live up in most part to expectations (even if they were unreasonable), high unemployment, poor outlook and a continuing squeeze on the middle earners income yet they still couldn't convince the public that their guy was the man to fix the countries problems. The ethnic make up of the USA is changing yet the republicans still field the same policies and candidates, their losing touch and their core voting base is for ever shrinking.
Couldn't keep a straight face liking through these pictures 
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/07/us-election-2012-romney-supporters_n_2087016.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/07/us-election-2012-romney-supporters_n_2087016.html
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The people who are upset about his health reforms doesn't know what they are missing.
Despite all its flaws, I would rather have the NHS than not.
p.s. for a nation that is quite religious, especially the Republicans, they are blaming Hurricane Sandy for their loss....why hasn't anyone made the joke about God interferring and stop Romney's momentum in its track?
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Why do you keep doing this? Make one point, then try and back it up with a totally irrelevant point that has nothing to do with what you are trying to argue for?
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I never understand all the Romney hate in the UK.
He was a good bi-partisan Governor.
He by all accounts rescued the Salt Lake City Olympics.
He was a succesful businessman. Apart from the necessary travesty of the Republican primary he is a moderate with a history of success in executive roles.
The man would have probably been an excellent President but he did have to compete against heavily stacked racial voting patterns and still came within a few percent of a win.
It may not be success but it wasn't failure either.
He was a good bi-partisan Governor.
He by all accounts rescued the Salt Lake City Olympics.
He was a succesful businessman. Apart from the necessary travesty of the Republican primary he is a moderate with a history of success in executive roles.
The man would have probably been an excellent President but he did have to compete against heavily stacked racial voting patterns and still came within a few percent of a win.
It may not be success but it wasn't failure either.
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If Romney won I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't start another middle east conflict within a few months. He's too much like Bush for my liking. I personally like Obama and wish him well, especially with his healthcare bill which Republicans hate for reasons I will never understand.
Perhaps a more left president is what the US needs as the rights are arguably responsible for American unpopularity due to questionable foreign policy.
Perhaps a more left president is what the US needs as the rights are arguably responsible for American unpopularity due to questionable foreign policy.
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I meant, in relation to his point about Americans doesn't want Obama's health care reforms, because they don't want to pay for people who never paid a penny for it. Compare to what we have in the UK, the NHS, before the inception and creation of it we had the same problem. So I would rather live in a society with a system like the NHS in place than not.
I was comparing the 2, using the NHS as a good thing and the Americans are against it because they never experienced first hands of its benefits and how it could work. Instead of taking the term socialism and brand it evil. Also, I didn't think I need to explain every word…
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Obama's healthcare law isn't NHS, it's complicated but from what I understand it made it the law that every citizen had to have healthcare insurance and made it almost impossible for insurers to say no to anyone who came forward for a policy. The objects were numerous and all over the place, some though this was the start of "socialized medicine" but others who were more on the ball hated the bill because they were being told how to run their life's and felt the Obama was overstepping the mark.
For me I hate having the government tell what I can and cannot do whereas others feel perfectly content with it but Obamacare is far from a full NHS style healthcare system. In fact if you took Obamacare and the Tories were to front it as a key policy you lot would be jumping up and down saying there were trying to destroy the NHS. I would say a politician Obama is closer to the Conservative party then either Labour of the Lib Dem's.
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Romney is a very successful businessman who ran a great campaign.
The problem however is:
His views on abortion
His views on rape (although to be fair Todd akin actually screwed this one up)
His stance on foreign policy.
Regardless of the views on the first two, as has already been stated, due to his rather insensitive approach on foreign policy, if Romney had won we would have the US at war with Iran, and various trade issues with China.
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Because taking a pro-life-anti-choice stance on abortion at a political level over an issue that is so clearly controversial is backward thinking and retarded.
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You do realise how scummy Bain Capital were
Destroying thousands of jobs, insider trading and just general ultra greed and nastiness!
(Not forgetting the $102 million that they robbed from the American TAX system!)
Someone who is completely devoid of a moral compass shouldn't be a leader of a country imho!!
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Not to mention his crazy religious views which no doubt put off allot of voters.
EDIT: And since when did a successful business man equal a successful president? Running a country isn't about turning a profit?
EDIT: And since when did a successful business man equal a successful president? Running a country isn't about turning a profit?
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I have nothing against his aspiration, I don't disagree that he wants the best for his country. However, the way he run business does not necessarily mean it translate to a global scale for a country. He made his money by breaking up companies that is in trouble didn't he? Plus some of his ideas are just so "weird".
For example Romney wanted to get rid of FEMA – Federal Emergency Management Agency. He want the state to take on more responsibility itself when it comes to dealing with emergencies. I guess it is part of his Smaller Government idea.
Then Sandy hit. FEMA stepped in. State of Emergency called for New Jersey, New York and a couple of others.
He also tried to take credit for creating equal opportunity for women back in his state, the "binders full of women" reference, he claims he asked to see more female candidates suitable for the role, it was in fact the other way round, other people brought him the binder itself on their own incentive and ask him to look at it.
None of the candidates are perfect, but I just can't trust someone who contradicts himself on a regular basis. The press are great at picking up on silly things politician does. Bush was gold for the media because of the gaffs he comes out with. I don't see the same with Obama. Romney has already given them enough material to last years even before this election with his attack on Big Bird and PBS, then the 47% of American relies on handouts and the binders thing. Sure, it would be funny to watch if he made it to the White House but oh my god, can you imagine some of his policies he might implement? Ala get rid of FEMA, let the Auto Industry go bankrupt, asking for more ships (does he thinks the Navy is just a numbers game?) I am sure he is smart, business smart, but I don't think he is actually in touch with real America itself.
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