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So, if I was to build a SFF PC for living room gaming I'd be best to purchase an AMD GPU ?

Yes.

Although I've tried Linux on Intel-based PCs I'd lean towards an AMD GPU particularly for a Linux gaming PC. I'm currently running SteamOS on my lounge PC which is my old gaming rig and is a 6650XT and runs great. Only issue is the intro/splash screens being choppy but that might be my HDMI cable tbh.

Although you'll more than likely be fine. My 3 week old new PC built on AM5 with an 9070XT has has horrendous stability issues (AMD pageflip bugs). I've finally managed to get this stable adding a few boot parameters for now which isn't ideal (amdgpu.dpm and amdgpu.runpm). But like Windows there are some bugs/issues that can impact you.
 
People trying to scalp these already in for a rude awakening if they think people are going to pay anywhere close to double the asking price, nevermind listing them on eBay for x3 the asking price
 
An alternative to the Steam Machine people who are really into tinkering might want to look into is a BC250 build. It is a whole computer on a package the size of a GPU and is basically a failed PS5 that was sold to crypto miners. It is definitely only for people who are enthusiasts though as the build is quite involved.

It is perhaps only slightly slower than the Steam Machine but costs half the price all in.
 
FWIW Bazzite, SteamOS and CachyOS (Handheld Edition) are essentially all doing a very similar thing; bundling a load of packages like the kernel, Valve's Gamescope compositor (lightweight, gaming mode), Proton software layer for emulating Windows code etc into a one install-able image. SteamOS is typically older versions of those parts and has less stuff included, where as Bazzite & CachyOS include more software by default. Bazzite has a slight difference in terms of being build on Fedora Linux rather than Arch Linux like SteamOS & CachyOS.

Personally I've found SteamOS to be faster in-terms of installing and start-up, but they end-up all doing the same job and looking the same. If youi're only ever downloading Steam games and don't intend to do anything else then SteamOS is arguably good enough to use on non-Valve hardware now.

In terms of hardware if you have an AMD, or Intel build you should have a relatively good time with any of them although there are still things like WiFi cards, or bugs that can catch you out. Nvidia isn't supported in Gamescope and therefore you can't currently install without issues. Bazzite warns you as much on the download pages.

Any of them largely work very well with just a controller, but you still get games which have annoying UI, or launchers that can break the controller experience. Borderlands 2 is an example where the splash screen that you can't navigate past with just an XB controller. You need trackpads, or keyboard and mouse to type '-nolauncher' into the properties. Stuff like this unfortunately still happens from time-to-time so every so often you might need to grab a kb&m, or have a small keyboard like the Logitech K400r around in-case.

Bazzite does work on Nvidia GPUs, maybe not officially supported or quite as seamlessly/performant as AMD, but it does work.

SteamOS on the other hand wouldn't even try to install for me, although this was 6 months ago, so maybe recent updates will have changed that
 
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Bazzite does work on Nvidia GPUs, maybe not officially supported or quite as seamlessly/performant as AMD, but it does work.

Steam is on the other hand wouldn't even try to install for me, although this was 6 months ago, so maybe recent updates will have changed that

Isn't that because Valve's own Gamescope compositor/Gaming mode doesn't support Nviida GPUs?

There is a huge warning on the Bazzite page for their 'HTPC version' if you choose Nvidia (or Intel) from the dropdown menu. And I do remember Linus in their recent Linux challenge/LTT video having to abandon installing Bazzite on a Nvidia GPU as he just couldn't get anywhere with it. So I just assumed it's very much beta at this stage and not worth bothering with. Apologies if that's incorrect. I know Bazzite will absolutely work in Desktop mode just fine and sorta related to that I have installed Fedora 44 KDE on an old Nvidia 1070 based laptop and it works fine. Although the card is now only supported in the legacy drivers.
 
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Isn't that because Valve's own Gamescope compositor/Gaming mode doesn't support Nviida GPUs?

There is a huge warning on the Bazzite page for their 'HTPC version' if you choose Nvidia (or Intel) from the dropdown menu. And I do remember Linus in their recent Linux challenge/LTT video having to abandon installing Bazzite on a Nvidia GPU as he just couldn't get anywhere with it. So I just assumed it's very much beta at this stage and not worth bothering with. Apologies if that's incorrect. I know Bazzite will absolutely work in Desktop mode just fine and sorta related to that I have installed Fedora 44 KDE on an old Nvidia 1070 based laptop and it works fine. Although the card is now only supported in the legacy drivers.

Ah, it might be just the HTPC version then, I have it installed on my old Acer Predator with a 2070 Max-Q and it works fine, but I did go for the desktop version.

That being said, I would definitely go full AMD if I was building a system specifically for it.
 
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Ah, it might be just the HTPC version then, I have it installed on my old Acer Predator with a 2070 Max-Q and it works fine, but I did go for the desktop version.

That being said, I would definitely go full AMD if I was building a system specifically for it.

Ah OK, yep desktop version will be good.

Once Valve & Nvidia make Gamescope compatible this will filter down to Bazzite, CachyOS Handheld etc.

And yes all AMD is the way to go on a lounge gaming PC.
 
Isn't that because Valve's own Gamescope compositor/Gaming mode doesn't support Nviida GPUs?

There is a huge warning on the Bazzite page for their 'HTPC version' if you choose Nvidia (or Intel) from the dropdown menu. And I do remember Linus in their recent Linux challenge/LTT video having to abandon installing Bazzite on a Nvidia GPU as he just couldn't get anywhere with it. So I just assumed it's very much beta at this stage and not worth bothering with. Apologies if that's incorrect. I know Bazzite will absolutely work in Desktop mode just fine and sorta related to that I have installed Fedora 44 KDE on an old Nvidia 1070 based laptop and it works fine. Although the card is now only supported in the legacy drivers.
For bazzitte and and Nvidia GPU there is the option to download the image for desktop mode rather than boot straight into steam mode. If you select Nvidia GPU and straight into steam mode image if gives you a warning that it doesn't play nice. I used the desktop image with my 3080ti and all worked fine. No crashes, tools to undervolt the GPU etc are available. Only thing that needs to be toggled for steam big picture mode to work properly is hardware acceleration. Otherwise navigating around steam is laggy.
 
Got a reservation but will probably pass though i would like a controller. Would probably just build some bits if i want
 
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