Vega 56 worth it at around £200?

[decto]

Sure but the current Vega 64 price is more like £380.

And I expected Navi would be somewhere between the 1080 and 1080 ti, for £300. Of course we all know how that turned ouTt.

e: Really considering pulling the trigger on the blower model now for £200.

It will be noisy, and that will make me sad. But the Pulse is too expensive at +£70 more.

Disappointing price cuts, I expected a little more when it's suggested people wait until Wednesday.

The Vega 64 with blower is current £268 at the same place that is doing the 56 blower for £200.
Both cards seem to be standard PCB so waterblock £95 -£120 if you have a loop, unless you can source second hand.

 

[HeX]

Vega 64's already given us 1080 performance for £300.

Indeed. Personally I was hoping for ~Vega 64 performance with less power draw and undercut Vega pricing due to smaller die and no HBM.

 

[FoxEye]

Disappointing price cuts, I expected a little more when it's suggested people wait until Wednesday.

Yeah. I find that a bit odd.

Maybe they saw the number of people ready to snap it up and thought twice about discounting it.

But of course that means some of us lost interest entirely.

 

[Martini1991]

Indeed. Personally I was hoping for ~Vega 64 performance with less power draw and undercut Vega pricing due to smaller die and no HBM.

What's more laughable about it is that Navi 5700XT's launching at near enough the original rebate Vega 64 price.
Vega 64 was supposed to be super expensive for X and Y reason.

 

[thenewoc]

Can't see this playing out too well for AMD with the rumoured Navi prices, why would I go AMD if it's too closely priced to Nvidia. I say this as a life long ATi / AMD buyer of over 20 years...

 

[Martini1991]

Can't see this playing out too well for AMD with the rumoured Navi prices, why would I go AMD if it's too closely priced to Nvidia. I say this as a life long ATi / AMD buyer of over 20 years...

Why wouldn't you go AMD? At the end of the day in pure price/performance is seemingly better than an Nvidia 2070. Albeit they're both crap price/performance and I don't recommend anyone buy either.

 

[FoxEye]

Why wouldn't you go AMD? At the end of the day in pure price/performance is seemingly better than an Nvidia 2070. Albeit they're both crap price/performance and I don't recommend anyone buy either.

Well if AMD only match nV, and are only managing that 6+ months later, then why would anyone wait for AMD?

Might as well go nV, get the same price/perf, and have your card a lot earlier...

That's why AMD need to push price/perf. Matching nV months/years later is not a winning hand.

 

[thenewoc]

Why wouldn't you go AMD? At the end of the day in pure price/performance is seemingly better than an Nvidia 2070. Albeit they're both crap price/performance and I don't recommend anyone buy either.

But above that AMD won't have anything to compete with comparable Nvidia. When Navi arrives I expect Nvidia will adjust some of their prices too.

 

[Troezar]

Nothing here making me want to buy. I'd really rather buy AMD but as already stated they need to be competitive. I'll see what Super does to the market...

 

[Martini1991]

Well if AMD only match nV, and are only managing that 6+ months later, then why would anyone wait for AMD?

Might as well go nV, get the same price/perf, and have your card a lot earlier...

That's why AMD need to push price/perf. Matching nV months/years later is not a winning hand.

Well, there's that. If you wanted that price/performance it was already available. If you were waiting for better, then of course it's not an applicable purchase.

But if you were buying a GPU after 7/7 and you could afford a 2070/Navi 5700XT there's no real reason to pick the 2070 over the 5700XT just because it's Nvidia.
Again, I'd buy neither. But the Navi 5700XT looks as it stands right now to offer slightly better price/performance.

 

[Martini1991]

But above that AMD won't have anything to compete with comparable Nvidia. When Navi arrives I expect Nvidia will adjust some of their prices too.

If you're only looking at 2070 level, it's irrelevant what's above it or not.
Again, I'm not defending the 5700XT, but I find some logic to be bizzare.

 

[thenewoc]

AMD will be forced into abandoning their pricing folly when they release their next set of sales performance as I suspect it will affect their share price when sales slump. Unless they've got killer performance they just won't succeed aligning themselves to Nvidia pricing.

 

[Darujhistan]

AMD will be forced into abandoning their pricing folly when they release their next set of sales performance as I suspect it will affect their share price when sales slump. Unless they've got killer performance they just won't succeed aligning themselves to Nvidia pricing.

You'd think they'd have learned this lesson by now. Unless they're cheaper, people will buy NV.

 

[Arslan Shakeel]

Dude you should remove the reference to a competitor. This forum is owned by OcUK and it's against the forum rules to post them.

Haha, oops. They did it for me anyway.

 

[thenewoc]

If you're only looking at 2070 level, it's irrelevant what's above it or not.
Again, I'm not defending the 5700XT, but I find some logic to be bizzare.

I was only looking at it as a stop gap compromise to tide me over until possibly Navi20 or whatever comes after that.

 

[thenewoc]

You'd think they'd have learned this lesson by now. Unless they're cheaper, people will buy NV.

I'm guessing they think they can take the risk more now with the CPU's propping them up but I still think they'll fail and market forces will leave them having to make an embarrassing climb down in the GPU market.

 

[FoxEye]

You'd think they'd have learned this lesson by now. Unless they're cheaper, people will buy NV.

It's not just the price, it's the fact that AMD are coming late to the party each gen.

People know this now. nV will always have the next-gern ready first, and if AMD just come along 6+ months later at the same price and perf then there's little reason to wait. Or get excited for any AMD GPU.

If they can't be on time then they have to be cheaper, to bring something new to the marketplace. New can be better price/perf, but it has to bring something new or they will already have lost most sales to the early bird (nV).

 

[Darujhistan]

I'm guessing they think they can take the risk more now with the CPU's propping them up but I still think they'll fail and market forces will leave them having to make an embarrassing climb down in the GPU market.

I agree I don't think Navi is going to sell well as things stand right now.

 

[Darujhistan]

It's not just the price, it's the fact that AMD are coming late to the party each gen.

People know this now. nV will always have the next-gern ready first, and if AMD just come along 6+ months later at the same price and perf then there's little reason to wait. Or get excited for any AMD GPU.

If they can't be on time then they have to be cheaper, to bring something new to the marketplace. New can be better price/perf, but it has to bring something new or they will already have lost most sales to the early bird (nV).

Yeah, I agree, but I think AMD are more interested in the console market for GPU's which be worth a lot more than the enthusiast PC gamer market. It seems like they're only really interested in maintaining a token presence, that said they still make good cards, as do NV, but they just do it later!

 

[Chrisc]

I have the same case. Was playing PUBG last night and hovered around 50-55 Celsius
Mine is the Nitro Vega 64, but I cannot see why you are hitting 80, my 290x Tri-X topped out at around 75 and that had 100% GPU usage and fan speed of 50%

On cooler days its not as high, it does get rather warm in the room so i assume ambient temperature plays a big role