Most people who are waiting will be waiting due to not wanting a blower-style card.
I'm just talking about price. The AIB's aren't going to sell their cards cheaper than AMD sells its reference models. For one it would hurt their profit margins, secondly it would damage their branding.
People waiting for AIB Vega should expect them to be more expensive (than AMD's RRP), that's all.
My take was the price might improve but probably be lucky to see this before xmas. So lets say £450 for reference with the free games as an ideal. Or maybe a nicer cooler for £450
I think thats possible but I guess not in the autumn. This is too bad for AMD because besides the obligitary Freesync related sales of Vega they arent going to get a ton of volume till they either improve performance or it gets below 450. I say ideal but 450 is the top price for proper volume of sales.
Apparently AMD loses 100 for every card sold that cheap but wouldnt this always be true of start up costs to any new production. They want to sell a lot of cards, it then evens out for them and if the actual production is costing them that much then yea thats not good
For me £350 was utter limit on VEGA 56, when it launched at £380 and now £390 it pushed me to a GTX 1080.
Didn't wanna be on ref air blower, VEGA 64 AIO is far to over priced IMO. Got a MSI GTX 1080 EK X for £500, in my eyes works out ~£400, as included WB is worth ~£100.
Will miss FreeSync. Won't miss the launch shenanigans of poor VEGA driver. Dunno why all features of VEGA are not enabled in launch driver. Perhaps if even a game showed benefits from 'intrinsic shaders' and or 'tile based rendering', I'd have been swung towards VEGA.
Seems like VEGA is still a waiting game.
Yea same, I wasnt going to bother. I was going to wait for Volta or AIB but who wants to wait even longer. The other alternative was that nice MSI 1080 waterblock card but I dont have a water cooling setup already and decided not to do that, maybe that'd been more interesting and the smart choice I guess we'll know by year end.
I've always thought you are in the wrong game trying to be clever on a product launch, they arent often super value afaik. Best you can hope for is the 8800GTX type result where it dominates forever.
The sweet spot in price to performance is the kind of mid range or at least 10 months or so post a paper release. So for Vega that'd be 10 months after Frontier I guess or May '18 which means Volta.
Reasons to buy AMD ref now not nvidia:
- Open source
- 12 phase power reference design is highest quality
- idle vega uses 20w of power - sounds so low to me
- The fan isnt noisy until the top end. I got the noise of rifles and explosions in my ear at this point usually
- Dual bios ?
- Features may or may not be interesting developments going forward
50% of the reason why miners like AMD is the open source thing. You wont hear a lot of this, they dont want to speak about it too much as its literally their business but they'll want to mod Vega or any AMD card as much as possible and open source helps.
So now you really hate open source maybe but its possible it leads to some really exciting possibilities. Mining they have their incentives to work in that direction and I'd hope some gaming elements want to take forward the various Vega advantages. I just thought Vega is more interesting more forward looking tbh, I should've bought 1070 AIB but I dont see Vega as a bad choice so far.
Its slightly sad that only Freesync is mainstream reason to buy and maybe true till year end
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