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VEGA IS FINALLY HERE, ITS IN STOCK ALONG WITH SOME EPIC BUNDLES & FREESYNC DEALS!!

@silversurfer

The 8800 GTX was truly a beast. I had been on AMD GPU prior that, it lasted well. TBH I can't recall another recent GPU which held it's own for as long as it did for me out of all of GPU purchases.

VEGA has interesting features for sure. The HBCC allowing other 'data storage areas' to be used for VRAM is something good for longevity. But on saying that it really doesn't matter to some degree how much VRAM a GPU has. In that it will reach a point in it's life cycle where the FPS delivered by the GPU is showing the age of the GPU more than how much VRAM it can address. How much the other features on VEGA impact performance is pretty much down to how well they get implemented and widely used. If they don't get used it becomes a moot point. Which at this moment AMD really should have had enabled and been able to show case to make a solid case for prospective buyers not consider an alternative, as I have done. This would have also lead to less 'flack' from all sides for the delay to come up with VEGA.

The VRM on VEGA is great, it was great on Fiji as well, did it allow a better OC? nope.

Dual bios is moot point IMO on VEGA, the extra 'Security Feature' means true bios mod is not viable on VEGA. Yeah we can say "Oh hark I got extra performance by flashing my V56 with a V64 bios". To someone as OCD as me I'd wanna be using the right VBIOS for ASIC and have the facility to mod data values as I want. I did this on Hawaii and Fiji, in each case, in my experience it was always a more stable experience for gaming, length f@h runs, where I modded the right VBIOS for GPU. As example the ASIC profiling on Fiji Pro for VID per DPM was differing to Fiji XT. I have not yet looked at that portion of the VBIOS of VEGA, but would not be surprised if it differs. Due to this lack of true bios mod, it meant I couldn't discount going to the competitor.

I would agree that FreeSync is the main aspect that wants me to find a VEGA at the price I'd like.
 
gupsterg said:
it really doesn't matter to some degree how much VRAM a GPU has. In that it will reach a point in it's life cycle where the FPS delivered by the GPU is showing the age of the GPU more than how much VRAM it can address. How much the other features on VEGA impact performance is pretty much down to how well they get implemented and widely used
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I just switched from a 1 gig card to this 8 gig. The biggest factor to clip an old cards wings is this vram limit and also dx level. [swapping textures out mid frame render is a disaster]
HBCC is probably going to help the second hand market more then its helping right now. AMDMatt says it does help fps some so if thats the case it's some good now.
I wouldnt guess we are exceeding 8 gig that soon but who knows it might help a lot before we get navi.

Most games will adjust all the way down, now always but quite commonly. Its cliche but the gameplay is what matters, an old card still has its uses then and I'd like if vega lasted that long and hbcc was a real help there (maybe main memory gets very fast :D).
Also the other features, I hope something is made of them within a year before volta even would be best!
It helps everyone if advancements can be made, ups the baseline to beat
 
silversurfer said:
I just switched from a 1 gig card to this 8 gig. The biggest factor to clip an old cards wings is this vram limit and also dx level. [swapping textures out mid frame render is a disaster]
HBCC is probably going to help the second hand market more then its helping right now. AMDMatt says it does help fps some so if thats the case it's some good now.
I wouldnt guess we are exceeding 8 gig that soon but who knows it might help a lot before we get navi.

Most games will adjust all the way down, now always but quite commonly. Its cliche but the gameplay is what matters, an old card still has its uses then and I'd like if vega lasted that long and hbcc was a real help there (maybe main memory gets very fast :D).
Also the other features, I hope something is made of them within a year before volta even would be best!
It helps everyone if advancements can be made, ups the baseline to beat
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On a gaming POV no other test data I have seen shows HBCC benefits current games. I haven't taken the time to watch AMDMatt's videos, but doubt if there is justifiable gain and something which is down to just run to run variance which other test data on web points to.

The context you state for change of GPU is extreme case IMO and not the context I was placing. I have Fury X and TBH doing a swap not due to VRAM but FPS for what settings I wish to run. There will be owners of say 8GB 390/390X who will be considering the same.
 
Finally got my order in on a 56, OCUK CS was less than interested that their Braintree Visa debit software was failing to authenticate my card and said go paypal or amazon. Went paypal contrary to my better judgement and secured an order but less than impressed with the attitude. A business that has an issue with CC auth (confirmed by my bank as no issue) and push you to 3rd party payment isn't trying IMO. The fact that it took literally 5mins to set up a Paypal acct and pay without an issue, when Braintree which OCUK use to process card payments is a Paypal company can't do the business is just bizarre.

First order here, let's see how it goes.
 
Geck0 said:
Finally got my order in on a 56, OCUK CS was less than interested that their Braintree Visa debit software was failing to authenticate my card and said go paypal or amazon.
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Technically speaking authentication failure is down to your bank and/or whatever authentication they have set up for card payments, did you try using a different browser?
 
ubersonic said:
Technically speaking authentication failure is down to your bank and/or whatever authentication they have set up for card payments, did you try using a different browser?
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WHUT? My bank said no issues. The CC auth uses the same fields FF or IE or EDGE or Chrome uses, it's called scripting. I signed up to a paypal acct using the same browser and in 5 mins had the order complete and authenticated.

Google search Braintrust 3d authentication failure - it's a bit of a concern how much of the actual script is available open and on the web.
 
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