VIA are still making CPUs!

4K8KW10 · 26 Jun 2019 at 22:03

humbug said:
They will never make it over here anyway, Trump has just force both Intel and AMD to stop licensing IP to China.

Trump forcing AMD and intel, perhaps, to limit IP licensing has nothing to do neither with VIA's operations, nor with the Chinese engineering's potential to design their own CPUs now or in the future.
Don't forget the silicon limits are pretty close to an end, N3 (3nm), maybe N2 (2nm) and after that, it's unknown.

It's very possible the American companies won't be able to innovate further.

Akagi · 27 Jun 2019 at 10:33

NinjaCool said:
Bring back Motorola CPU's!

I still have a computer with a Motorolla CPU sitting in the cupboard... An Apple eMac G4.

Still works perfectly but there is zero software support unsurprisingly. 1GHz single core I believe! Overclockable to 1.44GHz by re-soldering a couple of contacts on one of the PCB's

NinjaCool · 27 Jun 2019 at 11:23

I have an Amiga 500 in storage and Amiga 1200 and Amiga CD32 hooked up still working fine, all with Motorola CPU's

humbug · 28 Jun 2019 at 18:19

NinjaCool said:
I have an Amiga 500 in storage and Amiga 1200 and Amiga CD32 hooked up still working fine, all with Motorola CPU's

I had those in my teen years, the memories....

NinjaCool · 28 Jun 2019 at 19:38

humbug said:
I had those in my teen years, the memories....

My friends also ended up selling theirs, mostly after they got a PC while I instead packed my A500 with games away in storage.
Really glad young me did that so I even have my old game boxes around, maybe you remember some of them

humbug · 28 Jun 2019 at 21:12

Worms.... loved that game.

NinjaCool · 28 Jun 2019 at 21:53

Worms is one of the classics and with 4 player support it was a ton of fun!
Team 17 also made other great Amiga games like Alien Breed, Superfrog and Project-X

LePhuronn · 2 Jul 2019 at 15:11

Moonstone FTW!! The outcry at the gore levels

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 2 Aug 2019 at 21:25

It appears the 16NM Zhaoxin ZX-6000 matches a Core i5 7400:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/china-zhaoxin-kx-6000-core-i5-7400,39694.html

4K8KW10 · 14 Dec 2019 at 21:24

China’s Next-Gen x86 CPUs Planning to Challenge AMD and Intel: Server CPUs with 32 Cores, 7nm Consumer Chips
https://www.techquila.co.in/chinas-...server-cpus-with-32-cores-7nm-consumer-chips/

Consumer Lineup: KX-7000
The consumer KX-7000 lineup is getting a higher priority with a revamped microarchitecture as well as a node shrink. The first wave is supposed to be based on TSMC’s 7nm node while the following generations will leverage the 5nm process.

This means that by 2021, Zhaoxin will have products comparable with both Intel and AMD. The move to 7nm should allow for higher clock speeds and the newer microarchitectures should improve the IPC by a notch too. The present Chinese designs suffer from abysmally low IPC and core clocks but if all goes as planned, both the problems should be take care of within the next two years. We’ll keep you posted as we hear more.

Alan1969 · 14 Dec 2019 at 21:40

interesting, 7nm! so its not going to be crap then.

Justintime · 18 Dec 2019 at 15:48

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It appears the 16NM Zhaoxin ZX-6000 matches a Core i5 7400:
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/china-zhaoxin-kx-6000-core-i5-7400,39694.html

Thats impressive if true. Would be funny to see a dead name like Cyrix rise up again and stomp Intel and AMD lol. I did love my VIA chipsets for AMD back in the day, still got my KT7A and Asus A7V-333 in the loft and plan to make a retro machine out of them some time.

Justintime · 18 Dec 2019 at 15:54

nkata said:
The Via KT333 Apollo was a decent chipset paired with the ABIT bios back in the day. Not quite the Nvidia chipset but very capable.

People scoffed at me with my Tualatin 1.4S and VIA Apollo pro QDI motherboard but it was plenty fast and didn't suffer a 89mhz AGP bus like my BX boards at 133mhz. KT133A, 266A, 333 and 400 were really good once drivers were installed. I actually liked my VIA boards better than my NF7-S and AN7 boards, nforce was good but seemed a little finicky in my book.

james.miller · 18 Dec 2019 at 17:45

I had a 1.2 tualatin, great budget cpu.

Dunno about via chipset though, I had a kt3-ultra ARU and that was one massive POS. My nf7-s v2 was a soIid board in comparison.

Justintime · 19 Dec 2019 at 08:52

Oh the BX was deffo faster in many ways even at 100mhz bus, still have a 1.3 Celeron Tualatin (basically probably as fast as a 1.3 Coppermine if not slightly faster, one of the best celerons along with the 300A and Pentium M Celerons) but the VIA was more reliable at 133MHz with AGP and not so far behind.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 30 Jan 2020 at 10:58

The KX-6000 is now available in China for DIY PC builders:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15446/zhaoxins-x86compatible-cpus-for-diy-enthusiasts-now-available

humbug · 30 Jan 2020 at 12:34

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The KX-6000 is now available in China for DIY PC builders:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/15446/zhaoxins-x86compatible-cpus-for-diy-enthusiasts-now-available

What's the performance like compared to Coffeelake / Zen 2?

PiKe · 30 Jan 2020 at 12:37

Had so many audio issues with VIA chipsets back in the day, kind of put a sting in the ointment for me.

humbug · 30 Jan 2020 at 12:43

It will no doubt do quite well in a state market controlled communist China. But something tells me we will not even see them in the west.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 30 Jan 2020 at 13:09

humbug said:
What's the performance like compared to Coffeelake / Zen 2?

The KX-6000 is supposed to br around Core i5 7400 level performance,but it has twice the cores.It also runs at upto 3GHZ,and those screen shots show under that.

So,not sure how its IPC is,as it the performance overall when all cores are used the same as a Core i5 7400,or is per core performance?? It does support AVX.