Skirts are manly af, dunno why anyone would complain.
Where's her pronoun badge?
virgin Atlantic lets male pilots and crew wear skirts to 'express their true identity'
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Where's her pronoun badge?
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Because it makes absolutely no difference to anything and I don't care.
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Well you obviously did care enough to do it and then reply.
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Has anyone mentioned that this also allows female staff to wear trouser if they wish?
No? I thought not.
No? I thought not.
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From the man who spent time picking out two of my non-mutually exclusive posts, quoted them together and then replied.
Anyone can wear a kilt. Scots are known for wearing them more than anyone. I have no idea what your point is.
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I'd be amazed if they weren't allowed to already. The military have been issuing women trousers for decades and we're usually the last to be dragged into the modern era...
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Edgelords gotta edge.
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One contradicts the other essentially.
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No, it absolutely doesn't. If I said that no-one ever wears kilts but that the Scots are known for wearing them, then that would be a contradiction.
Muslims are known for wearing Burkhas, but anyone can wear one if they want to. Soldiers are known for wearing camouflaged gear, but anyone can wear it. Doctors are known for wearing a stethoscopes round their neck, but anyone could buy one and walk around like that.
Think of a Venn diagram with a circle containing people who wear kilts, and another containing scots, with an overlap in the middle.
Soldato
Don't care. I really don't have the energy to have an opinion on everything.
They can dress as pirates for all I care so long as they can fly a plane.
They can dress as pirates for all I care so long as they can fly a plane.
Commissario
Airlines have in many cases been stuck very much in the past with regards to cabin crew, IIRC it's only relatively recently that some of them dropped the maximum age for female cabin crew.
It's sounding more and more like Virgin have basically said "you can wear what you want as long it's one of our uniforms", probably very much to allow the female staff to wear trousers and they've just mirrored the policy for male staff.
Forum name computes.
Soldato
never mind
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His type?I believe for your type of folks they refer to it as hamstering
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Soldato
Bus drivers were banned from wearing shorts in the recent heat wave, they switched to skirts as a protest. Its possible thats still the situation in this case
Man of Honour
False appeal to authority, a common fallacy. You're citing "nature" as an authority when in fact what you're doing is trying to attach superhuman authority to your own position. You'd be better off stating "my god disapproves of it" because at least that couldn't be easily proven false.
It would be less obviously wrong to argue that it's not natural for humans to wear any clothes at all. Clothing is obviously artificial. Humans make clothing. That's what artificial is. You don't roam the countryside and pick a pair of trousers that's growing from a trouser tree.
As for the gendered ideas attached to some clothing, that's artificial piled on top of artificial. It's purely a matter of fashion except for underwear. Some underwear is inherently gendered due to the limited sexual dimorphism in humans, but the vast majority of clothing is gendered wholly artificially.
Traditional Roman clothing was a simple dress. Yes, for everyone. Any age, any sex. It was called a tunica. Togas were formal dress and not many Romans wore them routinely. Some did and some wore them daily for their job or political position, but tunicas were much more commonly worn. There was a gendered aspect to them - the hemline. Shorter dresses were manly, longer dresses were womanly. So most Roman men routinely wore a minidress. Apart from the manliest of manly Roman men - the legionaries. Who wore a skirt. And no, I'm not joking. Trousers were initially considered barbaric and womanly by Romans (because they covered the legs, a womanly thing to do). It was only after Rome expanded further north into Europe and Romans experienced more northerly winters that trousers became generally accepted clothing. Through soldiers again - no Roman in their right mind would tell legionaries that they were womanly and barbaric.
Dresses and skirts of various kinds have been common clothing for men (and women) in many times and places. They're much easier to make than trousers.
In other news, high heels were originally manly. As was lace and ruffs and make-up and flowery perfume and various other things. Apart from underwear, gender in clothing and cosmetics is solely a matter of fashion. It's absolutely nothing to do with nature.
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