Virgin media... and so it begins. restrictions started.

Rich · 20 Dec 2007 at 21:49

Vicar said:
Bangs head against wall, I cant remember how many threads about speedtest.net being absolutley guff for these kind of readings. Especially through peak hours..... VM as far as I know are not putting the new (better) limits on till after New Year, although their website has updated, or if its being rolled out across the UK in stages during January, I have no idea.

I am also aware that some area's are also getting better throughput than others due to take up of Bandwith, luck of the draw there I am afraid.

Was thinking the same thing. People take it as gospel. I feel sorry for ISPs sometimes.

PikKOn · 20 Dec 2007 at 21:52

It really depends on whether you live near an exchange server. Closer you are to one the better your download and rarity of loosing packets.

tolien · 20 Dec 2007 at 21:53

XanderThal said:
tell that to the computer science proffesor that taught it to us in uni.

He taught you crap then - to convert bits to bytes you divide by 8.
Dividing by ten is an approximation that you can do mentally, 9.6 is just stupid.

Vicar · 20 Dec 2007 at 21:55

PikKOn said:
It really depends on whether you live near an exchange server. Closer you are to one the better your download and rarity of loosing packets.

This is Cable though... distance should not make a difference, where as ADSL does make a difference.

V-Spec · 20 Dec 2007 at 22:07

Tolien said:
He taught you crap then - to convert bits to bytes you divide by 8.
Dividing by ten is an approximation that you can do mentally, 9.6 is just stupid.

Was gonna say, I help look after the core/business network of the Telewest side of VM, all the QoS stuff we do for calculations to work out various values is all divided by 8, and most of that came from Cisco so 9.6 is :confused:

to me lol.

BoB3rt · 20 Dec 2007 at 22:08

good point

something_totally_different · 20 Dec 2007 at 22:27

V-Spec said:
Was gonna say, I help look after the core/business network of the Telewest side of VM, all the QoS stuff we do for calculations to work out various values is all divided by 8, and most of that came from Cisco so 9.6 is to me lol.

in that case i may have been taught incorrectly and will use 8 from now on.

but this is a little off topic so im going to drag us back on. its gone 9 and im still restricted...

PikKOn said:
It really depends on whether you live near an exchange server. Closer you are to one the better your download and rarity of loosing packets.

thats for ADSL services only, cable isnt effected.

Kol · 20 Dec 2007 at 22:47

Mr Sniper said:
I feel sorry for you guys, i can't believe VM have screwed over the existing customers of NTL. Is there no way for you guys to leave as they changed their terms and conditions?

I used to be with NTL way back and the service was always good for me, and thats between 2 houses!

They haven't.. I'm sure it's a minority. I've lived in various counties and each and every one has been with NTL and I always have (and still do) max out my connection. To be fair, I would say VM still offer the best value for money. No caps, the fastest speed around (without having to live in your exchange), no traffic shaping, merely a reduced speed for a few hours a day. I can handle that.

I use newsgroups (and not speedtest.net) to measure my connection

aftershxck · 20 Dec 2007 at 23:03

Maybe he meant divide 9.6 to count out the overheads etc?

Vicar · 20 Dec 2007 at 23:28

XanderThal said:
but this is a little off topic so im going to drag us back on. its gone 9 and im still restricted...

Go over the current restriction of max download in the current climate VM FUP then your restricted 4 hours till full download again.

MumboJumbo · 20 Dec 2007 at 23:50

I always download at 250kb from gamespot and anywhere with a good server usualy 400kb.

PhillyDee · 21 Dec 2007 at 12:33

Yep, i get what speedtest say, and i get what i pay for. 4mb cable here.

Avalon · 21 Dec 2007 at 16:21

Throttling aside for a moment (and yea the latest round of throttling annoys even me) if you try doing a speed test on the London server then doing it on the Irish server, you'll normally get quite different results, again another example of why Speedtest is lame

LordSplodge · 21 Dec 2007 at 16:56

I (nearly) always get the speed I pay for (2mb) and I am a bandwidth whore. I <3 Virgin Media over Cable.

Going to 20Mmb in the new year...

LordSplodge · 21 Dec 2007 at 17:22

Just to prove you naysayers. Heres a speed test @ 5:30pm, so in Peak Time, after a week of downloading over 20gb of data according to my download monitor.

I get this:

Jabbs · 21 Dec 2007 at 19:11

Would you prefer shaping or a hard dl limit like 80gig a month ? i know which i prefer coming from 3 years of adsl, ok so your speed dies between 4-9pm but atleast you can download pretty much what you want.

DavidS14 · 21 Dec 2007 at 20:45

Never had a problem with VM. Usenet downloads are always pretty much full speed all the time.

Venares · 21 Dec 2007 at 21:23

Looks like I've just had my breaks slammed on too.
This sucks, sure I understand why they have done it but seriously, how the hell can they be even thinking of rolling out 50mb. It's like saying you can buy a Ferrari but only drive it at 10mph.
Oh and I'm on 4mb so I just got super screwed too, 1mb cap same as the 2mb package. :mad:

Why the hell am i even paying for 4mb now, I come home from work and cant even use the damn thing.

Van Diemen · 21 Dec 2007 at 22:02

This is my 20mbps service results

I may be on a trial or something, I was on 20meg long before it was released

Vicar · 21 Dec 2007 at 23:51

I'll just report what I already said about this before......

Vicar said:
Bangs head against wall, I cant remember how many threads about speedtest.net being absolutley guff for these kind of readings. Especially through peak hours......