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Random question but will Virgin's network ever be able to compete on latency with Openreach or other altnets? Will an upgrade to XGS-PON help for latency?
 
GregI said:
Random question but will Virgin's network ever be able to compete on latency with Openreach or other altnets? Will an upgrade to XGS-PON help for latency?
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Yes it will bring it down to near Openreach FTTP levels but time will tell as more customers are moved over. It still won’t help with the routing/peering etc.
 
Rather then starting a new thread I thought I would ask here.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a router to replace the SH4 I have?

recently the wifi has been a bit crap (devices disconnecting, 5g or 2.4g stops working\broadcasting etc) so was thinking of putting it in to modem mode and buying a better router.

I live in a bungalow so its all on 1 level but its been so long since I bought a router I cannot decide on what to buy.

no budget set but do not want to spend more than needed or spend a stupid amount on it.

I have the following but not all running at once.

2 x laptops
1 x switch
3 x TVs
2 x PCs (wired directly to the SH4)
1 x tablet
3 x phones

Thanks in advance
 
Locky said:
I would pick FTTH over DOCSIS any day of the week. Virgin is quite frankly rubbish for gaming, not only is DOCSIS poor but Virgins routing & peering is also awful...
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Agreed, I do 90% of my gaming on GeforeNow Ultimate and it seems OK (I don't play many twitch FPS) and find it fine. That said if I can get higher speeds and lower latency for similar money then I'll jump ship!
 
Install day, one last speed test with BT...

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Swapped the WAN over to VM.

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Yea that'll do :D
 
GregI said:
Random question but will Virgin's network ever be able to compete on latency with Openreach or other altnets? Will an upgrade to XGS-PON help for latency?
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Maybe when they move to XGS-PON, however one think I learnt is latency isnt all supreme.

One problem with the DSL resellers (and I assume same on FTTP). Is they have anti buffer bloat network policies which makes it more likely to have have throughput issues or unpredictable packet drops on other stuff.

I had a few weird issues I couldnt resolve on VDSL that just went *poof* on VM that were related to traffic policing.

As an example downloading a steam game would be like DDOSing myself, I would have to throttle the download to 60% or lower which was a ridiculous amount of buffer, I then noticed I only needed a 2% buffer on my 4G connection to prevent packet loss instead of 40%, and now my VM connection is the same, only needs a very small buffer.

No question for me buffer bloat is a lesser evil vs packet loss, a delayed packet still makes it to you just a bit later, a dropped packet doesnt.
 
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ChrisD. said:
Lucky.

I take it that it is a new VM area?
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Yea, the lines went in a few weeks ago. The tech who came and did the internal work said VM havent even provisioned the install equipment for every tech yet so they have 1 set of equipment to cover the entire area!!
 
Is anyone else having this issue? This is our VM Business line in Manchester city centre. Almost a perfect increase in latency 9am-5pm, perfect for Teams calls.

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