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Virgin Media Upload Speed Upgrades

Discussion in 'Networks & Internet Connectivity' started by Dangerous, 30 Sep 2010.

  1. Yamahahahahaha


    Joined: 11 Oct 2008

    Posts: 3,834

    Location: London

    If the endpoint is a proxy which is then redirected to you, it's pretty anonymous.

    @groen, it's mindboggling how much money is spent on monitoring law abiding citizens. Every piece of traffic in the EU is stored for a minimum of 12 months (Or was it longer in the end?) as part of 'anti terror' legislation.
    The hit rate for storing all of that would be less than 0.0001% I imagine, but don't let that stop the paranoid nutters from spending billions on it ;)
  2. SinaiSound


    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

    Posts: 3,303

    Location: Sheffield

    5mbit upload will be much welcomed from me

    I upload quite a few user shot HD videos to youtube, which can be up to 1GB in size which takes its time at the min.

    If they do start throttling file sharing at peak times, I'm not that bothered - my downloads are scheduled between 12am - 8am anyhow
  3. jakspyder


    Joined: 12 Aug 2008

    Posts: 3,043

    Location: London

    what kind of traffic are steam downloads counted as? i reinstalled windows the other day so iv been downloading my 75 -.- steam games and the speed has been dropping off now and then. could be steam busy thats the problem but just wondering..
  4. Werewolf


    Joined: 17 Oct 2002

    Posts: 29,882

    Location: Panting like a fiend

    Steam are just downloads, iirc they don't use a bit torrent/p2p or nntp type transfer.

    I've always found steam download speeds extremely variable*, and they've just pushed out various updates to several games that require fairly large downloads (and had a couple of good offers;)), so I'd suspect the speed dropping off is probably at steams end, or somewhere between vm and steam's servers.

    *I've had them go from sub 500k to 5MB+ at times on 50mb.
  5. RoachycaL


    Joined: 2 Jan 2006

    Posts: 3,152

    Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne

    I'm starting to get really annoyed at Virgin. I've been with them for about a year now and they've been ok apart from a couple of problems - but over the past couple of weeks the internet has really slowed down. Xbox live seems almost unusable at the moment but I really cant be bothered to ring them up as their customer services are terrible from my previous experiences. :(
  6. zootfloot

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 24 Nov 2005

    Posts: 2,240

    Location: Skelton in Cleveland

    Ok, had the Technician round on Saturday, he "seemed" to know his stuff.

    Anyways he was saying that although the 50Mb is indeed not traffic managed at the minute, it is application managed so that confirms what some others have said about downloading using p2p etc.

    I asked about the 100Mb, he said that it was being tested in various parts of the country, but to the best of his knowledge it wouldnt be anywhere close to going live for at least 18 months, and VM will probably change their minds anyways.

    I am very happy with my 50Mb package, oh its very fast and i managed to install all of my steam titles in one afternoon rather than one week.

  7. Berserker

    Man of Honour

    Joined: 4 Nov 2002

    Posts: 15,465

    Location: West Berkshire

    It's really easy for them to use DPI to shape SSL/VPN connection. Thus:

    Identify connection as SSL or VPN (either looking at the session initiation or just the ports used). Count number of bytes sent/received. If it goes over x amount (say 1GB), assume it's P2P/Usenet and traffic shape it.

    That's roughly what PlusNet did, and that's part of what lead me to quit them (encrypted traffic between me and my hosted server regularly got 'done').

    DPI isn't rocket science. It's just taking an educated guess based on average traffic patterns. Big encrypted downloads are more likely to be P2P/Usenet than not.
    Last edited: 11 Oct 2010
  8. r3loaded


    Joined: 20 Mar 2006

    Posts: 383

    Location: Manchester, UK

    Regarding the quality of service from VM, I'd like to point out that we've been with them for over 8 years now, never had a single problem with them. Line's always been near full speed, latency has always been very low (typically 10-30ms). So it seems to depend on where you live. Jumping to Be isn't an option for us, they'd end up supplying us with around 5mbit :p

    Anyone know when the Baguley/Manchester area is getting the new upload speeds?
  9. Surveyor


    Joined: 5 Sep 2010

    Posts: 24,011

    Seems to be upgraded in Stoke-on-Trent now.
  10. Stolly


    Joined: 11 Mar 2004

    Posts: 4,999

    The header won't contain anything about which file you are transfering.

    It'll just have frame information, protocol type, destination and other dull stuff i can't remember.
  11. OCdude


    Joined: 24 Feb 2008

    Posts: 2,704

    Location: Norway

    Wheeee looks like i've got 2Mb up now


    Fun times!
  12. Gravity


    Joined: 16 Sep 2003

    Posts: 258

    Location: Southport

    Getting a 50 megabit line setup on Tuesday, which postcode area are you in? I'm ST1 Hanley/Northwood.
  13. A[L]C


    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

    Posts: 7,482

    Location: Maidenhead

    Still the same here :(

  14. Surveyor


    Joined: 5 Sep 2010

    Posts: 24,011

    I'm in ST6 Tunstall/Burslem.
  15. Mr.Fantastic

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 9 Aug 2009

    Posts: 1,506

    Location: Internet

    Anyone got the upgrade in Gtr Manchester?
  16. Surveyor


    Joined: 5 Sep 2010

    Posts: 24,011

    Upgrade not all it's cracked up to be.

    They've upgraded me from 1.5Mb to 5 Mb upload and then a couple of days later sent a letter warning me for "detrimental use of your broadband connection" :(

    They giveth and they taketh away :rolleyes:
  17. OCdude


    Joined: 24 Feb 2008

    Posts: 2,704

    Location: Norway

    lol you still get those on 50Mb? Wow.. you must have been really caining it :p
  18. Surveyor


    Joined: 5 Sep 2010

    Posts: 24,011

    No more than I have been for several months ;)
  19. asim18


    Joined: 5 Dec 2006

    Posts: 15,370


    yay :)

    Unfortunately I can only get these speeds after 1AM. :( During the day my internet connection is nonexistent to put it in one word.

    For **** sake Virgin, don't ****ing upgrade everyone if you know your hardware cant handle it. It was fine before they did this.


    See after 2 hours the speed has gotten slightly better.


    The later it gets, the faster it gets.
    Last edited: 25 Oct 2010
  20. antijoke


    Joined: 28 Jan 2003

    Posts: 38,880

    Location: England

    I've now got the 1Mb upload speed on my 10Mb connection.