Vista Check List??

Six6siX · 19 May 2006 at 14:30

Stelly said:
I guess that most things are going to come on DVD now... I wonder if Microsoft will use BluRay or HD DVD for Vista, if at all...

I doubt it. Blue Ray and HD DVD will take a long time to gain a solid consumer base and would mean Microsoft lose potential customers because people cant install from the media. Add that to the fact that, like when DVD came out, the drives were mega expensive...

Mr.Orb · 19 May 2006 at 14:31

Mellownatts said:
Im quite content with XP at the moment, no need to fix something that aint broken.

Yeah, but you are going to have Mac Nuts going "Microsoft arn't updating their OS, See OSX is better".

ballistic · 19 May 2006 at 14:31

I'll be using Ubuntu Dapper+1 by the time Vista comes out..

iCraig · 19 May 2006 at 14:33

I'm not keen on the word Vista either.

Mac operating systems always sound so much better in my opinion.

gord · 19 May 2006 at 14:34

Stelly said:
See didnt think of that... oops

I seriously doubt they could do that as it would surely be a breach of monopoly competition law, but its a thought...

Mellownatts · 19 May 2006 at 14:36

Mr.Orb said:
Yeah, but you are going to have Mac Nuts going "Microsoft arn't updating their OS, See OSX is better".

But they will no doubt be saying something along those lines anyway.

Silly Mac users..

Stelly · 19 May 2006 at 14:38

gord said:
I seriously doubt they could do that as it would surely be a breach of monopoly competition law, but its a thought...

Thanks... just wondering how it would breach monopoly law?

Dom- · 19 May 2006 at 14:39

Stelly said:
Thanks... just wondering how it would breach monopoly law?

Forcing people to buy into their technology to install their OS?

Doubt anyone would spend £100+ on a HD-DVD drive and then £100+ for Vista

You'd see a huge increase of people using Mac OS X and the more friendly versions of Linux if they did try that

ballistic · 19 May 2006 at 14:44

Dom- said:
Forcing people to buy into their technology to install their OS?

Doubt anyone would spend £100+ on a HD-DVD drive and then £100+ for Vista

You'd see a huge increase of people using Mac OS X and the more friendly versions of Linux if they did try that

it wouldn't matter, most people would download it anyway or get it 'free' with their dells.

Amp34 · 19 May 2006 at 14:45

Six6siX said:
I doubt it. Blue Ray and HD DVD will take a long time to gain a solid consumer base and would mean Microsoft lose potential customers because people cant install from the media. Add that to the fact that, like when DVD came out, the drives were mega expensive...

The drives for blu ray are going to be in the region of £200 or less i think, HD about the same. Not a huge amount by any standards for brand new tech. Sony have already announced a number of PC's with blu ray for around the £1000 mark. If microsoft were to go down that route they would definitly go for HD-DVD as that is what they are backing.

Blu Ray>HD-DVD

Psyk · 19 May 2006 at 14:51

agw_01 said:
I bet it's full of all kinds of DRM crap

There is a big misconception about DRM. It's not up to microsoft whether something is DRM protected or not, it's up to the content provider. If Vista didn't support it, it just wouldn't be able to play DRM protected media. It doesn't mean that everything that runs on Vista will be "full of DRM crap".

lee87 · 19 May 2006 at 14:54

Amp34 said:
The drives for blu ray are going to be in the region of £200 or less i think

Ocuk have a Blu Ray writer for pre order, it's £680 :eek:

I'll be sticking with XP, don't see any need to upgrade.

Stelly · 19 May 2006 at 14:59

lee87 said:
Ocuk have a Blu Ray writer for pre order, it's £680

I'll be sticking with XP, don't see any need to upgrade.

Yes I have seen them, its like every new technology, VERY expensive

Stelly

Stelly · 19 May 2006 at 15:01

for your info...

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/default.mspx

Stelly

jesta · 19 May 2006 at 15:01

i think im going to move to Apple computers soon. cant stand all this Vista business,starting to annoy me and forcing people to upgrade to play games.
time to save up for macbook now.

Amp34 · 19 May 2006 at 15:02

lee87 said:
Ocuk have a Blu Ray writer for pre order, it's £680

I'll be sticking with XP, don't see any need to upgrade.

So they do. Seems a little steep from what i have heard elsewhere. :confused:

They will certainly fall as soon as there are more players out, about 2 months after pioneer.

NathanE · 19 May 2006 at 15:04

The "15GB" hard drive space is just a recommendation. The actual operating system (on a typical install) will only take up about 3-4GB... its also already been confirmed that it will ship on a single-layer 4.5GB DVD.

Dom- said:
Forcing people to buy into their technology to install their OS?

You'd see a huge increase of people using Mac OS X

So Apple's requirement that you must have a Macintosh in order to run Mac OS X doesn't count as "forcing people to buy into their technology to install their OS"?

Dom- said:
The Windows UI is unloaded(that was the case a while back,don't think it's been scrapped) before playing games

It's not really "unloaded" per se. It's simply that the graphics card memory is now mapped into the virtual memory address space and therefore paging can occur. Traditionally, games would load and acquire all the memory on your graphics card to prevent any other software from using the graphics card. But with Vista this practice will be strongly discouraged to game developers. The new (and probably long overdue) method is to simply allocate as much memory as the game needs but allow the operating system to perform page swapping (i.e. to and from graphics memory, to RAM and even to page file) in order to share the valuable resource between processes using it. Additionally, the GPU is now time sliced (like the CPU) which allows multiple processes to use it at the same time. This means you'll be able to play a game on one screen, play a movie on the other, and be rendering some 3D animation in the background. Sure performance will suck for the game but it just demonstrates the power of Vista's new graphical subsystems. Eventually Nvidia and ATI will make it possible for their SLI/Crossfire systems to take advantage of this power - or maybe eventually there will be a GPU chip powerful enough to do all three anyway.

Stelly · 19 May 2006 at 15:07

NathanE said:
The "15GB" hard drive space is just a recommendation. The actual operating system (on a typical install) will only take up about 3-4GB... its also already been confirmed that it will ship on a single-layer 4.5GB DVD.

Ah thats cool then

going to get a raptor to use Vista

Stelly

Matt · 19 May 2006 at 15:10

So there are SIX different versions of Vista? :eek:

Personally i'm making the switch to OSX

afraser2k · 19 May 2006 at 15:12

The problem with the 15Gb+ for the full "bells and whistles" is that there are many business machines with 40Gb hard disk drives, even purchased in the last year. Between that requirement and whatever the next Office/security products will require then there's not much room left over for custom business applications. No doubt most businesses will run with the non-fancy option though.

Personally I'll be sticking with Windows XP until my work decide what version of Vista they'll be getting in the site license, if we still have a site license by that time of course.