Vista keeps on crashing...

SkeeterPSA said:
Also see if u can borrow a optical drive and cable from someone, to rule out dodgy cable/drive

Possibly try diff cable for hdd as well or diff sata port on mb for it.
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well I did try all of that before with the old bios, but I it's worth another try i guess with the new bios.

scan want to know the exact errors I'm getting so they can take back and test which components they think are the culprit, so I've compiled a load of screenshots of various errors to email them, and I'll tell them (or my dad will anyway) i'm getting BSODs.

hopefully I'll get this all working in time for crysis :)
 
Tell em u want it tested fully i.e stick components together and install windows and tell em what to test like er unreal 3 demo install and play on for 5 mins tho then again they might not send u the stuff back then lol. :)

But really, do get them to assemble and test with windows installed on that hdd and get to run what u think is easily error related and get them to download somit and see if its corrupted. etc.
 
SkeeterPSA said:
Tell em u want it tested fully i.e stick components together and install windows and tell em what to test like er unreal 3 demo install and play on for 5 mins tho then again they might not send u the stuff back then lol. :)

But really, do get them to assemble and test with windows installed on that hdd and get to run what u think is easily error related and get them to download somit and see if its corrupted. etc.
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yeah, I'll get them to do what I can, there being pretty pushy though, they'll only test what they think the problems are, last time my dad spoke to them on the phone on tuesday, they were still saying it was probably caused by flakey vista x64 drivers.
 
Hey yantorsen, i can see that your having quite a few problems with your system which must be getting pretty annoying.

Where abouts are you based? (If you live near me or their abouts, maybe i could pop round and give you a hand) :)
 
Below is what you say you have tested and changed.

1) Different HDD, so it's not the HDD.

2) Updated the bios, probably not the bios.

3) Different ODD, so it's not the ODD.

4) Different drivers, probabley not a driver issue.

5) Tested the memory with Memtes86+, probably not the memory.

As far as i can tell, the time you get the errors is when you install any NVIDIA drivers.

This leads me to think it's either your GFX card, or, your PSU can't produce enough power for the NVIDIA 8800 that you have.

Conclusion: Try a more powerful PSU, if that doesn't work then the culprit is probably the graphics card, even bad memory on the graphics card can cause this sort of problem.

It may be your motherboard, but i doubt it as the issue seems to appear when you install the graphics card drivers, i could be wrong though.
 
d.chatten said:
Below is what you say you have tested and changed.

1) Different HDD, so it's not the HDD.

2) Updated the bios, probably not the bios.

3) Different ODD, so it's not the ODD.

4) Different drivers, probabley not a driver issue.

5) Tested the memory with Memtes86+, probably not the memory.

As far as i can tell, the time you get the errors is when you install any NVIDIA drivers.

This leads me to think it's either your GFX card, or, your PSU can't produce enough power for the NVIDIA 8800 that you have.

Conclusion: Try a more powerful PSU, if that doesn't work then the culprit is probably the graphics card, even bad memory on the graphics card can cause this sort of problem.

It may be your motherboard, but i doubt it as the issue seems to appear when you install the graphics card drivers, i could be wrong though.
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that's all correct except I still have all the same errors without the gfx card drivers, except the ones where they involve installing games, because I didn't try to install games without any gfx card drivers.

and I havn't tryed a different hdd, only a different cable, and a different odd. I don't have any spare hdds.
 
I thought u said u did have a old hard drive, a ide one you were gona try.

Btw just to clarify your using windows vista 64bit, is that definate or is it actually 32bit version. Just woundering if your somehow installing 32bit drivers on 64bit os or vice versa.

And your not trying to dual boot are you with vista and xp on same hdd/partition. Cos that will mess up things a lot.

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He has a corsair 520w psu, which is more than adaquate for his setup btw.
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Btw yanto, have u ever tryed disasemmbling the pc and rebuilding from scratch double checking all wires and stuff while u go etc. Reseating cpu and gfx card etc. If not it might be worth a try, even tho im doubtful it would do owt but still if it does fix it lol why not try.

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Btw it may help if you tell us exactly what you install starting with the os then what drivers, if its 64 bit or 32bit which link u used to download them from, if anything happened while installing or after installing of per driver method. etc.

A dxdiag report im still waiting on btw, to check drivers etc. Go to start/run type dxdiag and save report (save button is bottom of window) btw check each tab while there see if any probs are showing.

Btw which port is the hdd connected to and which is the odd connected to, they should be in the orange sata ports not the purple ones. This if for both and all sata devices as you use one or the other i think.
 
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yeah I do have an old hard drive I was gonna try, but it doesn't work on my old computer (it did, but it broke), which is why it's spare, so it won't work on my new pc either.

I am using 64-bit vista, and all my drivers are the 64-bit versions.

I'm not trying to dual boot anything.

everything has been reseated (gpu, ram, cpu), and all cables unplugged and plugged back in again, and swapped with others were possible.

I'll get some links of where I got drivers from sorted for you, and i currently don't have a windows install anymore, as i reinstalled, but it crashed half way through and I got a BSOD. so I cannot get a dxdiag report.
 
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Are the pins on the cpu ok, non have bent or snapped off have they. I would have thought you couldnt boot anyway if a pin was broke or bent tho, so its a long shot that has happened.

Just to check, can you download speedfan (google it, is easy). and do a screenshot of what it shows. Just to see power and temps of things thats all.

Also sry if im repeating questions (2 large topics lol hard to remember everything) but have u a spare pci-e gfx card to test or can obtain one for a hour to test with, just to check if its the card "doubtful imo".
 
nope, none are bent, there all fine.

like i said I can't currently get a speedfan screenie, but as soon as i get vista installed proply again I will.

And no I don't have a spare pci-e gpu, only a couple of agp ones. my mate's got a ati x1600 but it's in his maine system which he uses everyday, so I'm doubtfull he'll let me borrow it.
 
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SkeeterPSA said:
Btw which port is the hdd connected to and which is the odd connected to, they should be in the orange sata ports not the purple ones. This if for both and all sata devices as you use one or the other i think.
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there all in the orange ports, hdd is in ide master channel 0, and odd is in ide master channel 1, acording to the bios.
 
SkeeterPSA said:
Hmm i checked the processing error in ** screenshot above and found this.

http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_...xception_Processing_Message_0xc0000013_with_p

Can you check ** drive letter assignments and that the hdd and odd isnt comflicting.
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I'll to have a look at this tomorow as I'm shattered now i need some sleep, sorry.

SkeeterPSA said:
About the odd as master 1, can u use a slave instead?
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and I certainly can use it as a slave, 0 slave or 1 slave? i didn't realise having sata drives as master and slave made a difference, I thought that only applied to IDE drives.

im off to sleep, i'll post back on how some of you're suggestions go tomorow. night.
 
Hmm interesting.

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From the 8800 topic u posted.

This indicates a MFT issue. The master file table. If this is what the problem is all the time which exactly describes all the probs ** having. Then we need to find out whats corrupting it and how to fix it somehow.

** not using norton auto-protect are you as i read turning it off helped. (just from a post i found using google).

Most places i read says run chkdisk and it might fix it, then again might not.

Source site for info below. http://www.ntfs.com/quest14.htm

Q: How do I repair a corrupt master file table?

A: It rarely happens that MFT becomes corrupted. NTFS stores a copy of MFT that is called MFT mirror. If problem occurs, NTFS tries to synchronize these copies.

You can try to run Check Disk utility from Windows environment. Or if Windows is not bootable, boot from floppies or bootable CD-ROM to Recovery Console and run CHKDSK utility that could help you.

If the damage to MFT is serious, standard utilities might help you and you'll see "Drive cannot be accessed" message when trying to access the drive in Windows Explorer. In this case we recommend you to use third party software, like Active@ UNERASER for DOS or Active@ File Recovery for Windows to access and save your files to another drive, and then reformat the partition.
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Hmm so lets think..

1. It could be a drive letter conflict or paths conflict (happened to bro once two c: drives it had similar problems as ** describing now i think about it.

2. It could be the hdd

3. Just the mb in some way.

4. Screw it wheres the hammer. :p

Hmm could give this a read

http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Advanced_NTFS_Boot_and_MFT_Repair
 
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