Vista keeps on crashing...

yantorsen · 18 Oct 2007 at 23:46

SkeeterPSA said:
Maybe you should post a link to the other topic in gfx section forums so ppl know more, cos these 2 topics are basically the same thing were discussing.

Btw did you try not using the wifi card at all. And did you ever try to find out what bios your using at the mo. Before you try flashin ** mb with new bios. It might have f4 on already (doubtful tho). Most off the shelf ones come with F2 i hear.

I don't know how to check the motherboards current bios, I can't find it anywhere within the bios itself. and I have tryed it without the wifi card, and it still has the same problems, infact if anything more problems.

like you said this thread and my other one were origanlly about different things but they've gradually become the same thing... so heres the link to the other thread to save me going over stuff...

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17784815 feel free to post in either thread though.

SkeeterUK · 18 Oct 2007 at 23:58

Bios can be seen when ** booting up, its on the first screen the pc displays while booting. Just hit Pause/Break Key when its on that screen and look for somit like F2 or F3 etc. Probably near the top of the screen.

Cpu-z if you can get it working will show bios revision as well i think. Possibly dxdiag as well (yeah it does just checked well not version but by date we might be able to find which it is ** on)

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:01

SkeeterPSA said:
Bios can be seen when ** booting up, its on the first screen the pc displays while booting. Just hit Pause/Break Key when its on that screen and look for somit like F2 or F3 etc. Probably near the top of the screen.

Cpu-z if you can get it working will show bios revision as well i think. Possibly dxdiag as well (yeah it does just checked well not version but by date we might be able to find which it is ** on)

i couldn't see the revision of it on there. I'll check again now though and post back.

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:04

nope I couldn't find where it says it in the bios, or on the opeing screen saying what you're mobo is etc..

I'll have another go at downloading cpu-z now.

d.chatten · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:06

yantorsen said:
well i'm just using the vista drivers for the chipset atm, because the ones I downloaded didn't work they were corrupt.

my specs are as follows ( i can post peripheral aswell if you need it):

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quads Q6600 G0 Stepping

RAM: Corsair XMS2 PC5300 667MHZ 2GB (2x1GB) Timings: 4-4-4-12

GPU: Scan OEM Nvidia 8800 GTX

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R (not sure which revision it is to be honest)

HDD: Western Digital 320GB AAKS (WD3200AAKS)

ODD: Lite-On DVD-RW (not sure on the exact model)

CASE: Akasa Zen

PSU: Corsair HX 520W

WIFI: Abit AirPace PCI-E Wireless Adapter Card

Thanks, Yanto.

Before you start make shure you memory voltage is set to 2.1v in the bios, i have the same ram in my second system and this is the recommended voltage for this ram.

Intel chipset drivers, before you download these drivers disable UAC first by going to Start and click on your user picture at the top of the start menu, in the box that pops up click on "Turn User Account Control on or off", restart when prompted, when you download these drivers make shure you save them on your C: drive, install these as follows, now goto > Start > All Programs > Accessories, right click "Command Promt" and select "Run as administator" in the cmd window type C:\infinst_autol.exe -OVERALL and press enter.

NVIDIA GFX drivers, to install these drivers, right click the downloaded .exe file and select "Run as administator".

Realtek sound drivers, dowload this file > "Vista Driver(32/64 bits) Driver only (Executable file)", to install these drivers, right click the downloaded .exe file and select "Run as administator".

Abit AirPace WiFi

Hope this helps!

SkeeterUK · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:06

Get on msn and maybe it will transfer better through there if i send u it.

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To the bloke who said run ** ram at 2.1v. Thats wrong. His ram runs at 1.9v at stock speeds according to corsair websites technical support page.

Troubleshooting Tips for DDR2-675 (XM2S-5400C4)

Tested Settings for this Module: Speed: 675MHz Latency: 4-4-4-12-2T Voltage: 1.9

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:10

d.chatten said:
Before you start make shure you memory voltage is set to 2.1v in the bios, i have the same ram in my second system and this is the recommended voltage for this ram.

Intel chipset drivers, make shure you download these driver to your C: drive, install these as follows, disable UAC by going to Start and click on your user picture at the top of the start menu, in the box that pops up click on "Turn User Account Control on or off", restart when prompted, now goto > Start > All Programs > Accessories, right click "Command Promt" and select "Run as administator" in the cmd window type C:\infinst_autol.exe -OVERALL and press enter.

NVIDIA GFX drivers, to install these drivers, right click the downloaded .exe file and select "Run as administator".

Realtek sound drivers dowload this file > "Vista Driver(32/64 bits) Driver only (Executable file)", to install these drivers, right click the downloaded .exe file and select "Run as administator".

Abit AirPace WiFi

Hope this helps!

cheers mate,

yep that certianly helps, I installed all my drivers slightly differnetly to that, so I'll give that a shot. And acording to the corsair sight (last time I looked) the recomended ram voltage was 1.9v?

thanks, yanto.

d.chatten · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:18

yantorsen said:
cheers mate,

yep that certianly helps, I installed all my drivers slightly differnetly to that, so I'll give that a shot. And acording to the corsair sight (last time I looked) the recomended ram voltage was 1.9v?

thanks, yanto.

What rev is the ram, the XMS2 5300 i have are rev 1.2 and another set that is rev 1.3, both are rated to run at 2.1v.

I have just checked your ram on the corsair website and it does infact say 1.9v, so set it at the rated voltage of 1.9v

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:27

d.chatten said:
What rev is the ram, the XMS2 5300 i have are rev 1.2 and another set that is rev 1.3, both are rated to run at 2.1v.

I have just checked your ram on the corsair website and it does infact say 1.9v, so set it at the rated voltage of 1.9v

rightio it's at 1.9 now, i'll try reinstalling the drivers, tomorow when i have more time, its late now lol and im tired...

thanks.

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:30

just chcked the board and it's a Rev 1.1, if that helps.

d.chatten · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:39

The rev of the mobo wont make any difference to the drivers that you need, also the mobo rev shouldn't cause any problems with any of the other hardware that you have either.

barnettgs · 19 Oct 2007 at 01:05

I had a similar experience as yours. Memtest passed without any problem but in the end, it turned out to be a faulty ram! Memtest couldn't detect the fault I guess. I just swapped over and the problem disappeared.

Also check the motherboard for any sign of leaking or budged capacitors. It can cause all kinds of problems!

Have you checked the PSU voltages? (from BIOS or benchmark tools)

SkeeterUK · 19 Oct 2007 at 10:20

The board i read from ocuk website comments says that the mb defaults to 1.8v so ** overvolts should be set to +0.1v to make it 1.9v. Duno if you have it 0.2v etc so try 0.1v

Also i heard someone had to rma the board cos having problems and they found it was the northbridge getting piping hot, can you check yours by touching the heatsink. It should be cool. If its hot it might be this thats the prob i duno tho to be honest.

Reviewed by: Jammer44

5 Stars for overclockers here. Installed working fine then games crashed after 15 minutes of use. At first thought it was the memory so editted the timings, no effect. I then felt the northbridge heatsink to find it was burning hot to the touch. Called overclockers and theyve sent me a replacement straight away fantastic . Apart from the heatsink which may have just been unlucky, this board is great.

See what i mean about northbridge?

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Edit 1 - According to this topic the mb might be messing up the volts. So try 0.2v if 0.1 doesnt help.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17783619

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 13:43

ahh yeah that could be the problem my northbridge heatsink is absolutly boiling, the northbridge is the big copper heatsink saying gigabyte on it, right nest to the cpu, yeah?

mem volt's are at +0.1v, and my dad's taken my usb stick to work again. so I'm gonna flash the bios tonight.

yanto.

SkeeterUK · 19 Oct 2007 at 14:24

If it is the northbridge over heating can you try taking side of case off and if possible have a large fan blowing on the motherboard to cool it down and then see if ** stil having probs. Tho duno if it will help if its already boogered cos of the heat.

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 14:27

wouldn't over heating usually cause just random shut downs, like an everheating cpu would?

and I don't have any fans to put over it. Well if it shouldn't be getting that hot anyway then I'll get it replaced.

SkeeterUK · 19 Oct 2007 at 14:34

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 14:43

if you update the bios from windows do you still need a usb stick?

d.chatten · 19 Oct 2007 at 15:27

yantorsen said:
if you update the bios from windows do you still need a usb stick?

No

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 16:01

right so i just download the new bios and run it?

and I installed all the drivers you sent links to, and they all install properly, except I still can't get sound to work, and games still don't play.

I can get it to play the samples on the realtek hd audio manager, but not on the internet or on wmp or anything else.