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[Gibbo]

When you say short term, are we talking years or months? Going by Linus's new video, he's on about fabs not being able to catch up till 2023!

12-18 months I expect these GPU issues to remain which in grand scheme of things is short term but it’s an annoying issue yes.

Also all been well by end of the year Covid issues will be over and will get better month by month April onwards, that will help ease some demand.

BTC could crash and thus help ease some demand.

As demand drops and so does interest from scalpers resulting in a big demand drop and things improve vastly.

 

[JediFragger]

Btw anyone see any reviews on the 6700xt fighter? Can't find any or youtube amateur vids either, curious about temps/noise levels.

Its a 3rd tier card with a slim 2 slot cooler, be realistic in your expectations imo. The fans look a decent size though so might help to keep the noise levels down.

 

[XeNoNF50]

public deal is doa.

Yeah public forum release for a low number of cards is doomed to fail imo.

New sub section with lower threshold would go relatively smoothly I'd imagine. Perhaps anyone who meets the 100 post free shipping threshold? Idk.

 

[RavenXXX2]

When you say short term, are we talking years or months? Going by Linus's new video, he's on about fabs not being able to catch up till 2023!

Intel has gaming gpu's on the way, could levitate some of the demand.

 

[ScottiB]

When you say short term, are we talking years or months? Going by Linus's new video, he's on about fabs not being able to catch up till 2023!

I honestly feel like 2023 is a shock, horror headline intended to get people to watch the video, but even if there are issues for a couple of years, I don't foresee it being anywhere near as bad as it has been recently for that entire time.
We've been hit by a perfect storm, Covid, lockdown, new launches for everything, mining boom number 3...reduction in supply and spike in demand.
Steps are already being taken to improve supply, new fabs are being created, Nvidia will no doubt produce a mining card that attracts some of the demand, the end of lockdown and the opening of holidays again will impact demand. People will start to have less free time again, those who desperately want a card/console will eventually get one, the "scalper" market will then run out of fuel and things will begin to return to a manageable level of normalcy.
It might take another year, but it'll happen.

 

[Psycho Sonny]

When you say short term, are we talking years or months? Going by Linus's new video, he's on about fabs not being able to catch up till 2023!

2023 is short term. There has been nothing like this ever. So to have a 2-3 year blip on an otherwise 40 year old industry is short term

 

[DD_Crash]

I am waiting for my 3090 to get in stock and then delivered. I am number 4 in the queue so hopefully it wont be too long. and I wont be using the voucher system but I am please that a lot of thought has gone into it.

 

[Squink]

It might take another year, but it'll happen.

I think the underlying question is 'will the prices actually come down' when supply increases and demand eases? Having enjoyed the current margins (albeit on reduced stock) every part of the industry will want those margins to be maintained. Both you and Gibbo have said many times that MSRP on current gen cards is a nonsense, so we're not likely to ever see AIB 3080s priced at £750-£800. It seems to me that a floor price has been established and that's never going away. Every top end card from here will have a street price greater than £1000, even when supply is good.

As an example, I paid over £1100 for 2080ti and that was two years ago when there was no perfect storm of covid, lockdown and so on.

 

[Jay85]

I guess im just looking at this the wrong way, if things vastly improve over the next 12 months it would be short term.

Hopefully like you guys have said, if steps have been taken to better prepare for something like this happening again the impact will be far less.

I miss the "old" days of being able to look on sites, choose my hardware, compare prices (seems like something of a myth now) and place an order. Almost makes me feel how we've taken somethings for granted haha.

 

[nutsnut]

Damn, was busyt working and missed out on the 6700xt, hope i'm around for the next one.

 

[XeNoNF50]

I think the underlying question is 'will the prices actually come down' when supply increases and demand eases? Having enjoyed the current margins (albeit on reduced stock) every part of the industry will want those margins to be maintained. Both you and Gibbo have said many times that MSRP on current gen cards is a nonsense, so we're not likely to ever see AIB 3080s priced at £750-£800. It seems to me that a floor price has been established and that's never going away. Every top end card from here will have a street price greater than £1000, even when supply is good.

As an example, I paid over £1100 for 2080ti and that was two years ago when there was no perfect storm of covid, lockdown and so on.

Not sure the pricing analyst at each of the AIBs even know

 

[unclepablo]

I need to stop lurking and get posting! I've been using OCUK and hanging around these forums before some of you were born... It used to be 100 posts before MM I'm sure?

 

[Jay85]

I think the underlying question is 'will the prices actually come down' when supply increases and demand eases? Having enjoyed the current margins (albeit on reduced stock) every part of the industry will want those margins to be maintained. Both you and Gibbo have said many times that MSRP on current gen cards is a nonsense, so we're not likely to ever see AIB 3080s priced at £750-£800. It seems to me that a floor price has been established and that's never going away. Every top end card from here will have a street price greater than £1000, even when supply is good.

As an example, I paid over £1100 for 2080ti and that was two years ago when there was no perfect storm of covid, lockdown and so on.

Well prices are only up because its outstripping demand by x amount. Simple demand and simply, when its equalises again im sure prices will fall more in line to what they should be. Of course i wouldn't expect Nvidia RRP to be AIB RRP as it never has been but it should be relatively close again bar the more expensive cards (Aorus, Strix, Matrix etc).

 

[Alchenar]

Yeah public forum release for a low number of cards is doomed to fail imo.

New sub section with lower threshold would go relatively smoothly I'd imagine. Perhaps anyone who meets the 100 post free shipping threshold? Idk.

I would suggest making the vouchers available to members who have been registered for at least 12 months rather than a posting criteria, but I have an obvious self-interest there! (and all I want is a 3060 to replace the 1080 that died on me last October!)

 

[rare]

I need to stop lurking and get posting! I've been using OCUK and hanging around these forums before some of you were born... It used to be 100 posts before MM I'm sure?

Was 500 I believe way back when. I don’t think a thousand posts is too much. The MM is one of the safest places to buy hardware IMO, part of the reason for that is people realise it’s a privilege to access it rather than a right, so it doesn’t get abused half as much as most places.

 

[xb8browney]

You could pick up 2080ti from ocuk in 2019 for £980

 

[Szydero]

I would suggest making the vouchers available to members who have been registered for at least 12 months rather than a posting criteria, but I have an obvious self-interest there! (and all I want is a 3060 to replace the 1080 that died on me last October!)

+1, This sounds more fair, because If you are real gamer then I don't think you spend every free time of your life on posting on this forum.



P.S I am happy owner of 3070 : )

 

[Drangueos]

Its a 3rd tier card with a slim 2 slot cooler, be realistic in your expectations imo. The fans look a decent size though so might help to keep the noise levels down.

Could not find any reviews as well, but on a plus side it has 2x8pins power instead of some other models that have 1x8 + 1x6pins

 

[ScottiB]

I think the underlying question is 'will the prices actually come down' when supply increases and demand eases? Having enjoyed the current margins (albeit on reduced stock) every part of the industry will want those margins to be maintained. Both you and Gibbo have said many times that MSRP on current gen cards is a nonsense, so we're not likely to ever see AIB 3080s priced at £750-£800. It seems to me that a floor price has been established and that's never going away. Every top end card from here will have a street price greater than £1000, even when supply is good.

As an example, I paid over £1100 for 2080ti and that was two years ago when there was no perfect storm of covid, lockdown and so on.

Flagship cards will probably always be north of £1000 now. You can't compare prices over many years, inflation is constant and compound. Based on inflation alone something which was £1 in 2000 should cost us nearly twice that now. On top of that, these cards are a LOT more complex now than they were ten years ago and complexity adds cost.

Manufacturer price drops are driven by competition. There's always a "race to the bottom" when supply exceeds demand, this is probably why manufacturers refuse to discontinue their entry level cards even though they clearly don't want to make any. They still believe that during the lifetime of these chipsets there will be a time when they will need to get as price aggressive as possible again.

 

[unclepablo]

I don’t think a thousand posts is too much.

Yes, I do agree that MM access shouldn't be given away but how many posts are actually of a decent quality/helpful and will we soon start "scoring" the quality of them to get points?

I feel this post makes my point perfectly..!