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VR - 8700k/1080 vs 2700X/Vega64

mediamatt

mediamatt

mediamatt

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Hi,

Wanting to build a new PC for VR (X Plane 11 and F1 2017) and cant decide between 8700k/1080 or 2700X/Vega64. Wanting to go AMD if possible but don’t want poor performance.

Any help appreciated.

Matt
 
Hi mate, the 1080 GPU will be better in VR. CPU wise either will be fine,(i like the 2700x). And i don't think F1 2017 works in VR.
 
I'm running Sapphire Nitro VEGA 64 with Oculus Rift, absolutely blinding experience. No complaints. VEGA 64 is faster than 1080 in gaming and compute, but does do a bit worse at VR. Overall your talking a few FPS in real world terms. The boys above are right does use a lil bit more juice and heat but If you like AMD GPU go with VEGA 64 you won't be disappointed.

Either CPU is a good choice.
 
Why not 2700X and the 1080? Nothing wrong with running an AMD CPU with an Nvidia GPU.

Also gives you an upgrade path to Ryzen 3/Zen 2 unlike the Intel which is a dead end.
 
rs155 said:
Hi mate, the 1080 GPU will be better in VR. CPU wise either will be fine,(i like the 2700x). And i don't think F1 2017 works in VR.
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+1

AMD GPUs are a bit lacking in VR currently, in both performance and niceties (ASW, LMS, etc). They have some of the niceties, mind, but the coverage is patchy.

A vote for 2700X w/ 1080 here.
 
ryzen 2700 + gtx 1080ti ..

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,248.06 (includes shipping: £11.10)​
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just slightly more then ryzen 2700x and gtx 1080

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,139.06 (includes shipping: £11.10)​
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8700k + gtx 1080

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,149.06 (includes shipping: £11.10)​
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mediamatt said:
Hi,

Wanting to build a new PC for VR (X Plane 11 and F1 2017) and cant decide between 8700k/1080 or 2700X/Vega64. Wanting to go AMD if possible but don’t want poor performance.

Any help appreciated.

Matt
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Seems you are on budget :) because both these solutions balance out more or less.
2700X is the better option and greater value for money. Cut down on the motherboard to B450 one instead of X470 to save some more cash for GPU.

For GPU GTX1080 & Vega are more or less the same with a rough 10% the 1080 being better for VR as of 17.12.2 drivers back in January. Saying that if you have Freesync monitor grab Vega64.
Since release the Vega 64 with newer drivers has come a long way to be honest.

If not, I would advice you GTX1080Ti (hence the money saving on CPU & board wrote above). There are games that need GTX1080Ti in VR like Project cars 2 or else even in the 1080 half the frames will be synth.

Here is a the latest review I could find using AMD drivers 17.12.2.

https://babeltechreviews.com/15-game-premium-vr-review-pascal-vs-vega-benchmarked-oculus-rift/2/


If there are have been improvements since then I do not know. However discard reviews with older drivers always. In the case of AMD things improve with new driver and firmware upgrades.
Drop a question to the Vega 64 owners discussion on the GPU section also.
 
Hi,

Have approx £1500 for the whole PC (already got a decent monitor). That’s not with the VR headset as already got funds put away for that. So £1500 I have for everything for the PC (cpu, cooler, ram, ssd, psu, case, case fans, keyboard)

Would love a 1080ti but not at the expense of a cheap motherboard or a major sacrifice elsewhere tbh

Matt
 
I would definitely recommend a 1080Ti for VR but then plenty of people run lesser cards and are happy, with a 1080Ti you can ramp up the SS which does make a noticeable difference in VR clarity.

OC.UK are currently selling Ryzen 1600X for £158.99, that is still 6 cores 12 threads at stock 4Ghz :D

EDIT: the 2600 is only £169.99, not bad for only £10 more :)
 
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mediamatt said:
Hi,

Have approx £1500 for the whole PC (already got a decent monitor). That’s not with the VR headset as already got funds put away for that. So £1500 I have for everything for the PC (cpu, cooler, ram, ssd, psu, case, case fans, keyboard)

Would love a 1080ti but not at the expense of a cheap motherboard or a major sacrifice elsewhere tbh

Matt
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Two core builds I listed , ain't cheap low quality boards :)
Intel is a bit of a grey area due to z390 and incoming 8 core . was told not told the Q3 time frame launch , not week number . News sites have pegged for Sept
 
Nvidia require games to implement the one pass geometry thing specifically and are lacking on the DX12 support front compared to AMD.

My money would go on a Vega and 2700X. I think that setup will perform a lot better with VR under DX12/Vulcan and offer much more longevity.
 
mediamatt said:
Hi,

Have approx £1500 for the whole PC (already got a decent monitor). That’s not with the VR headset as already got funds put away for that. So £1500 I have for everything for the PC (cpu, cooler, ram, ssd, psu, case, case fans, keyboard)

Would love a 1080ti but not at the expense of a cheap motherboard or a major sacrifice elsewhere tbh

Matt
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The 1080ti with 8600k would be best option for gaming and well within your budget.
 
At your budget I think you would be much better going for a 2600X and getting a 1080ti in the build cutting a little on the SSD and perhaps going with the AMD cooler for a while.
 
Right now, the Nvidia GPU (1080/Ti, whichever fits your budget) with an Intel CPU is probably the optimum solution.
There's a big "however" with this though.
Multi-core enabled games are becoming more common and linked to that, we're starting with the introduction of DX12 and potentially more importantly Vulkan. Both of those new graphics APIs are expected to take advantage of multi-core CPU available resources.
So whilst a single core game will be best served by a super fast i5 or similar, newer software is going to say thank you very much to a whole bunch of additional CPU cores.
In that arena, IMO, you're looking at not just the 2700, but also the fact that AMD are talking of introducing CPUs with a LOT more cores, and that those new CPUs will be able to use "some" existing motherboards.

If I were buying a PC now (and I'm looking at this myself in the near future), I'd be buying a 2700, which is a not only a very good solution now, but will mean you'll have the mother board in place such that you can "relatively cheaply" replace the CPU in 2-3 years time with something that might have double the number of cores.
 
intel put out what you will need for its lifespan.many dont understand this.games cater for this.new i5 will be good for 3 years minimum.youll probably get a extra year before upgrade out of a i7 over a i5.depends how long you keep your gear. its actually a pretty decent time to upgrade at the moment.prices arent stupid ram a little high still but decent performance even from lower end budget gear.

choose intel for maximum performance in games. or amd for multitasking or editing and gaming at same time.amd wont match intel in games with any of the cpus you choose in its lifetime.before anyone mentions upgrade path.its a lie.no one upgrades a amd cpu to a top tier one 2/3 years down the road.one because you paying twice so it doesnt make it worth it.2nd by that time whatever you would upgrade to has already been surpassed by even midrange cpus out new.

choose once and right and then upgrade mobo cpu ram same time when needed.personally id go for just gaming with the 8700/8086 option and a asrock tiachi combo.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
intel put out what you will need for its lifespan.many dont understand this.games cater for this.new i5 will be good for 3 years minimum.youll probably get a extra year before upgrade out of a i7 over a i5.depends how long you keep your gear. its actually a pretty decent time to upgrade at the moment.prices arent stupid ram a little high still but decent performance even from lower end budget gear.

choose intel for maximum performance in games. or amd for multitasking or editing and gaming at same time.amd wont match intel in games with any of the cpus you choose in its lifetime.before anyone mentions upgrade path.its a lie.no one upgrades a amd cpu to a top tier one 2/3 years down the road.one because you paying twice so it doesnt make it worth it.2nd by that time whatever you would upgrade to has already been surpassed by even midrange cpus out new.

choose once and right and then upgrade mobo cpu ram same time when needed.personally id go for just gaming with the 8700/8086 option and a asrock tiachi combo.
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So much BS in this post.

AMD and Intel trade blows in gaming performance. AMD have built better chips and have a better platform.
 
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