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VR - 8700k/1080 vs 2700X/Vega64
- Thread starter mediamatt
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Well that's an option but it voids the warranty, personally i think advising people to disassemble their CPU's is irresponsible, at least if not advised that doing that is something that Intel will care about and will reject under warranty.
The 8600K is also a 6 thread CPU, which i just don't think is a viable longer term processor.
Maybe buy delided with warranty??
Should be good for 2-3 years on 6 cores 5ghz for gaming 100% sure.
Yes but then with the hiked price the value goes out of the window.
That's nearly twice what my CPU cost me, under heavy workloads guess which one is the faster of the two even at that speed..
In games 5.1ghz 8600k without dubt.
Dont giev us the workload studmff as its PUREKY GAMING build.
If it was gaming and other stuff then ye but for vr gaming hands down 8600k wins. I can do you sone screenshots of how crappy optimised vr software is i run vr on 4 cores 8 to reduce lagg from infinity fabric. Its Faster that way.
With a GTX 1080TI yes, but most people with that sort of budget would and should be looking at the 8700K
When real people play game they don't do it on sterile systems, these days quite often its not the only thing they do, a lot of the time they record their antics and make content out of it, quite often people play games and stream at the same time, or they are also listening to Spotify, group play with Discord, Skype watching Youtube,... all at the same time, or play games while encoding / rendering something in the background.
I do.
People multitask, the real world is not a benchmark.
I stand by my statement that only people actually owning vr and using it at least few times a week should give advice.
2d gaming and 3d/vr gaming are totally different as you are adding extra narrow throat.
Vr runs at 2x90fps
HE WANTS PURE VR GAMING FOCUS BUILD and thats my advice. I own it i use it tested inside out.
Not articles from internets but actuall use and expirience.
In vr You dont use any of apps You mentioned brakes immersion!!!
2d gaming and 3d/vr gaming are totally different as you are adding extra narrow throat.
Vr runs at 2x90fps
HE WANTS PURE VR GAMING FOCUS BUILD and thats my advice. I own it i use it tested inside out.
Not articles from internets but actuall use and expirience.
In vr You dont use any of apps You mentioned brakes immersion!!!
For VR i agree, but if its the difference between an 8700K + a GTX 1080 or a 2600 + a GTX 1080TI the latter is a no brainer, if you have to start spending £100 more on warranteed delided 8600K's for higher clock speed's and the necessary cooling then that budget is the same as the 8700K, in which case spend the extra get the 8700K with the GTX 1080TI.
If not the 2600 is very capable and only £170.
@mediamatt Needs to decide what he can afford TBH
Best option as You say 1080TI + best cpu he can afford. With CHEAP non samsung ram i would not even look at AMD myself and just go with Cheap ram + 8600k even without delid plus Noctua cooler.
If it goes for VR Like i said i totally stripped my living room for Full sacle got 1 sofa chair and 1 gaming chair THATS IT
I had plesure of testing this:
in 1998 i was 15 played Quake1 and Duke 3D and i knew I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE ASAP
I had to wait 19 years rof my dream to come true and You know what i did ??
got myself BOTH Oculus rift AND HTC Vive to see what I like better. Vive lost due to how it felt on head and much worse screen door effect so sold it on .
Was great move as Touch controlers with 3rd sensor Totally blew Vive out of window on all fronts year later. Think I have over 500 gours in Elite Dangerous VR
Best option as You say 1080TI + best cpu he can afford. With CHEAP non samsung ram i would not even look at AMD myself and just go with Cheap ram + 8600k even without delid plus Noctua cooler.
If it goes for VR Like i said i totally stripped my living room for Full sacle got 1 sofa chair and 1 gaming chair THATS IT
I had plesure of testing this:
in 1998 i was 15 played Quake1 and Duke 3D and i knew I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE ASAP
I had to wait 19 years rof my dream to come true and You know what i did ??
got myself BOTH Oculus rift AND HTC Vive to see what I like better. Vive lost due to how it felt on head and much worse screen door effect so sold it on .
Was great move as Touch controlers with 3rd sensor Totally blew Vive out of window on all fronts year later. Think I have over 500 gours in Elite Dangerous VR
Thing is with VR is that you only really need to hit a constant 90fps, so there's little point getting Intel over Ryzen for pure VR gaming.
I know this because I went through the same thing when building my HTPC. It's purpose was VR and 4K gaming, both of which Intel had no real edge over Ryzen in. I was stuck between an i5 8400 and a Ryzen 1600 (was a 1700 originally but ran too hot in a Node 202). I went with the 1600 as I know next year when the 3xxx series comes out I can pop one in after a simple BIOS update, and because it easily delivers that 90fps you need for VR when pai
I know this because I went through the same thing when building my HTPC. It's purpose was VR and 4K gaming, both of which Intel had no real edge over Ryzen in. I was stuck between an i5 8400 and a Ryzen 1600 (was a 1700 originally but ran too hot in a Node 202). I went with the 1600 as I know next year when the 3xxx series comes out I can pop one in after a simple BIOS update, and because it easily delivers that 90fps you need for VR when pai
I’m currently on holiday in Corfu but will be back on Wednesday. Going to mill it all over but definitely going to get a 1080ti and if Ryzen is good enough for VR then will try to fit the 2700x in to my budget. If not then the 2600(x) would suffice as you say I can upgrade to then3 series when they come out.
Well..
I’ve changed my mind. I’m going to leave VR for a bit and going to up my budget to £2000 to get the right system. Seems X Plane 11 (used the most) runs better with the highest single core and that’s 8086k so I believe. I won’t stream I don’t think so no benefit of the extra cores.
I’m thinking the following but need some help on which board and ram to get so I can get the fastest out of the system..
Intel 8086k and overclock it
1080ti
Nzxt case
Nzxt aio
I really want to delid to get the most out of it but not sure as if I wreck it then it’s nearly £400 down the drain
Matt
I’ve changed my mind. I’m going to leave VR for a bit and going to up my budget to £2000 to get the right system. Seems X Plane 11 (used the most) runs better with the highest single core and that’s 8086k so I believe. I won’t stream I don’t think so no benefit of the extra cores.
I’m thinking the following but need some help on which board and ram to get so I can get the fastest out of the system..
Intel 8086k and overclock it
1080ti
Nzxt case
Nzxt aio
I really want to delid to get the most out of it but not sure as if I wreck it then it’s nearly £400 down the drain
Matt
+1, the 12 thread Intel is the way to go but honestly get the 8700K, its the same CPU with a fancy name and the inevitable fancy name tax.
Please answer the following
a) What resolution your monitor is , other than VR. If you game at 1080p then yes get the intel.
b) What games you play? If you play games based on Clausewitz engine (EUIV, CK2, HOIIV, Stellaris) then yes 5ghz CPU is better than 4.3Ghz CPU even at 4K.
If not though, and you game at res 2560x1440 and higher, wasting all that money on the 8086 and potential damaging it without warranty it ain't worth.
You would need a GPU twice as powerful than the 1080ti to see a difference between 2700X @ 4.2-4.3 and 8086K @ 5 on the significant majority of the games.
We wont see such GPU until 2020-2021 at least. By that time Zen 2 & Zen 3 will be out, and new Intel CPUs.
And you would still have the same AMD board just upgrading CPUs when you need it, while for Intel you will have to replace the motherboard.
Better invest the money on something like the EK MLC for cooling and watercool the GPU with the plugin prefilled blocks.
That would last quite some time and is better than AIO as is actually as good as a normal custom watercooling system.
Hi,
The monitor I have is 32” 2560x1440. Would stick to that unless 4K is going to give me a far better experience. Games I play are..
X Plane 11 (mostly)
Prepar3d V4 (regularly)
F1 2017 (regularly)
Project Cars 2 (regularly)
Sea of Thieves (often)
Fortnite (quite often)
Also will be video editing using Davinci Resolve 15 and editing photographs using Lightroom CC
Want the best power I can get for the budget and then can add water cooling after 6 months when i have saved up for the VR headset again and the relevant water cooling parts
P.S The only reason I’m saying 8700k/8086k is on X Plane then the Intel seems to outperform the Ryzen a lot (20% according to benchmarks)
Matt
The monitor I have is 32” 2560x1440. Would stick to that unless 4K is going to give me a far better experience. Games I play are..
X Plane 11 (mostly)
Prepar3d V4 (regularly)
F1 2017 (regularly)
Project Cars 2 (regularly)
Sea of Thieves (often)
Fortnite (quite often)
Also will be video editing using Davinci Resolve 15 and editing photographs using Lightroom CC
Want the best power I can get for the budget and then can add water cooling after 6 months when i have saved up for the VR headset again and the relevant water cooling parts
P.S The only reason I’m saying 8700k/8086k is on X Plane then the Intel seems to outperform the Ryzen a lot (20% according to benchmarks)
Matt
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Hi,
The monitor I have is 32” 2560x1440. Would stick to that unless 4K is going to give me a far better experience. Games I play are..
X Plane 11
Prepar3d V4
F1 2017
Project Cars 2
Sea of Thieves
Fortnite
Also will be video editing using Davinci Resolve 15 and editing photographs using Lightroom CC
Want the best power I can get for the budget and then can add water cooling after 6 months when i have saved up for the VR headset again and the relevant water cooling parts
P.S The only reason I’m saying 8700k/8086k is on X Plane then the Intel seems to outperform the Ryzen a lot (20% according to benchmarks)
Matt
Sure if you play on medium graphic settings, where the benchmark is based on go for it.
That was the purpose of my post. If you play games that benefit from high speeds is no difficult choice here to make.
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