The platform is not as refined as Intel, as it stands. Because of this I don't think you can say it's better.
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VR - 8700k/1080 vs 2700X/Vega64
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The platform is not as refined as Intel, as it stands. Because of this I don't think you can say it's better.
Well I've put together around 20 Ryzen systems of various spec's and configurations and I can say AMD are better than Intel. Intel have even said much.
Lol!
Not sure what you're smoking but it must be good
I've got 7 more to do. Possibly another 5-6 after that if we open another office.
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Horses for courses I think. If you're primarily gaming and VR, I'd go for the Intel/nVidia rig. General purpose + gaming? AMD/nVidia. General purpose + mining + additional winter heating? AMD/AMD.
Ye but You adding CRAP RAM that wont work that well with Ryzen.... So 8700k is clear plug and play winner.ryzen 2700 + gtx 1080ti ..
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 2700 4.10GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £248.99
- 1 x Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming AMD X470 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £127.99
- 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TLGD= £149.99
- 1 x Palit Geforce GTX 1080Ti GameRock Premium 11264MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £709.99
Total: £1,248.06 (includes shipping: £11.10)
just slightly more then ryzen 2700x and gtx 1080
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming AMD X470 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £127.99
- 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TLGD= £149.99
- 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 Eight Core 2700X 4.35GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £349.99
- 1 x Inno3D GeForce GTX 1080 iChill Air Boss X3 8192MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card (C108V3-2SDN-P6DN= £499.99
Total: £1,139.06 (includes shipping: £11.10)
8700k + gtx 1080
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TLGD= £149.99
- 1 x Inno3D GeForce GTX 1080 iChill Air Boss X3 8192MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card (C108V3-2SDN-P6DN= £499.99
- 1 x Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - OEM= £344.99
- 1 x Asrock Z370 Extreme 4 Intel Z370 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £142.99
Total: £1,149.06 (includes shipping: £11.10)
I run my oculus with full room dedicated to VR so its 2700x + Pascal titan. If You are not gonna do any productivity Intel+1080 will be better for You.
@jigger how many of those 20 ryzen systems are running full room scale VR just asking
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@Zeed poor ram ? Well have to relay that one to TG haha, don't think I've had an issue with them so far or from their end .
Granted timings aren't as slick as B-Die but with the costing of ram everyone's just after the cheapest
Think of going Pimax 8K X ? Love to see a titan or two running that thing !
Yeah, intel rig would definitely be the easiest all around to install, specially when you've got to remove the same AM4 brakceta for stock cooler... Why of why haha
Granted timings aren't as slick as B-Die but with the costing of ram everyone's just after the cheapest
Think of going Pimax 8K X ? Love to see a titan or two running that thing !
Yeah, intel rig would definitely be the easiest all around to install, specially when you've got to remove the same AM4 brakceta for stock cooler... Why of why haha
OP - I get not wanting to make any major sacrifices when you are laying out a grand and a half for the system - but seriously a 1080ti is going to give 30% better VR performance than a 1080.
I would drop to either a 6 core i5 or a Ryzen 5. Honestly 6 cores is enough at the moment, especially unlocked. But you save 30 quid going for the 2600x over the 8600k and with the included wraith cooler I would be confident you can get a good build in your budget. ( There is a pretty awesome bundle deal on OCUK with a 2600 an X370 board, ram and SSD for 354 right now.)
Either way you are going to get a significantly better platform with a 1080ti that will give you a much longer lasting platform. If you go with a 1080 or a Vega 64 you are going to be much more severely tempted by the next release on the GPU side - and it is going to be a much bigger upgrade cost than going Ryzen 7nm in the future.
I would drop to either a 6 core i5 or a Ryzen 5. Honestly 6 cores is enough at the moment, especially unlocked. But you save 30 quid going for the 2600x over the 8600k and with the included wraith cooler I would be confident you can get a good build in your budget. ( There is a pretty awesome bundle deal on OCUK with a 2600 an X370 board, ram and SSD for 354 right now.)
Either way you are going to get a significantly better platform with a 1080ti that will give you a much longer lasting platform. If you go with a 1080 or a Vega 64 you are going to be much more severely tempted by the next release on the GPU side - and it is going to be a much bigger upgrade cost than going Ryzen 7nm in the future.
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Just remember the RX VEGA 64 crushes the GTX 1080.
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That does look a good bundle. So if I got that and a Vega 64 it should be pretty good? Not expecting the absolute best but as long as it’s playable with vr it would be good enough for me until I upgrade massively next year or two?
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That does look a good bundle. So if I got that and a Vega 64 it should be pretty good? Not expecting the absolute best but as long as it’s playable with vr it would be good enough for me until I upgrade massively next year or two?
Matt
If your spending all that money on gaming rig you should get the 1080ti it's a lot faster than other cards and will give you much better vr experience.
The vega 64 cards are not competative right now the only people that buy them are the mega fan boys or crypto miners.
Have a look at vr benchmarks vega 64 is a very long way behind and is not going to give you a good experience.
https://babeltechreviews.com/rx-vega-64-liquid-10-vr-games-vs-the-gtx-1080-gtx-1080-ti/3/
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Yes it would be damn good. It isnt the absolute best you can get for your budget, which is why we are all pushing the ti. But if you do mine it will give back to you and it is still a really impressive rig.
I'd probably do a little research before you go advising people how to spend money. I know the resident Nvidia shills keep repeating rubbish like Nvidia have no competition but the reality is very different.
I do wonder what people define as a 'good experience' I have played VR and been super impressed by both teams top cards. It is an epic experience with any of the top cards. Sure a 1080ti is the absolute best but a 1070ti, or Vega 56 or above all provide an incredible immersive experience in VR that a console cant even dream of.
Ryzen 2600 + 1080ti everytime.
Thats the reality. Vega is not good in vr. Most of times its slower than 1080 best times its on pair. VR loves clockspeed. Thats why I asked how many of those 20 ryzen systems are running VR
OP go 1600/2600 and 1080ti if You can afford it.
Thats the reality. Vega is not good in vr. Most of times its slower than 1080 best times its on pair. VR loves clockspeed. Thats why I asked how many of those 20 ryzen systems are running VR
OP go 1600/2600 and 1080ti if You can afford it.
Posted review with 17.12 drivers above. They are both in par compared to the initial release where vega was lacking