VW emissions recall, anyone had it?

jlwood92 said:
The car was serviced by the same garage in December 2016 and no problems came up, suddenly in January when Stoke VW did not only a software update but fit something new to the car (I believe the 1.6 specifically is more than just software update) I am now having problems with EGR.

Surely you can't say it is a coincidence?
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It could be.
 
So what's the general consensus on the update? I finally got a letter through the post telling me to go get the update. It's due an oil change in a few thousand so it can wait.

I presume you can't tell anything has been done?
 
muon said:
It could be.
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Along with the other 10's of people that have had the recall done and are also having the exact same issue and have reported on other forums. I will admit it is probably a small percentage of cars out of the thousands that been done, but other cars are affected none the less.

Would have to be a very big coincidence if multiple cars all had EGR issues a couple of days after having the emissions "fix" don't you think?

"VAG only seems to have started on the 1.6 NOx emissions 'fix' this year, which is more complicated with the 1.6 TDI. So far, a lot of disaster stories. Some of the engine almost immediately clogging up the EGR"

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/a...gers-of-getting-the-volkswagen-emissions-fix-

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/vo...guans-losing-power-after-ea189-emissions-fix/

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/a...-the-emissions-fix-on-a-volkswagen-golf-plus-
 
jlwood92 said:
Along with the other 10's of people that have had the recall done and are also having the exact same issue and have reported on other forums. I will admit it is probably a small percentage of cars out of the thousands that been done, but other cars are affected none the less.

Would have to be a very big coincidence if multiple cars all had EGR issues a couple of days after having the emissions "fix" don't you think?

"VAG only seems to have started on the 1.6 NOx emissions 'fix' this year, which is more complicated with the 1.6 TDI. So far, a lot of disaster stories. Some of the engine almost immediately clogging up the EGR"

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/a...gers-of-getting-the-volkswagen-emissions-fix-

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/vo...guans-losing-power-after-ea189-emissions-fix/

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/askhj/a...-the-emissions-fix-on-a-volkswagen-golf-plus-
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Scroll down to the "what to watch our for"

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/volkswagen/golf-vi-2009/?section=good

and you'll see EGR valves were failing all over the place before the emissions fix.

26-1-2017 is the first EGR failure after a fix.
 
jlwood92 said:
Okay I'll go with your view that all of the cars reported having issues just days after the emissions fix must have all had failing EGR's prior to the recall, because that's likely :rolleyes:
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Until you show me a higher rate of failure after the fix compared to before, with actual evidence, then you are speculating. There are a large number of Golf TDIs on the road in the UK. An EGR fault is a frequent fault (an example on honestjohn of a car having it replaced 5 times).

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/volkswagen/golf-vi-2009/?section=good

See 20-12-2016.

If you want, go ahead with your speculation to a stubborn dealer and see how far you get.

Just go through that page and see how many times EGR is mentioned prior to the rollout of the fix in the last few months.
 
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Since I've had issues with Skoda/VW engines in the past and both marks have been utterly useless, I won't be taking our 1.6 anywhere near a fix. The only thing that would change my mind would be if VW end up having to pay UK owners like the USA, and then it would only go in if it was part of the payment agreement it had to be done.

EGR valve has already gone on a car that had less than 35k miles on the clock.
 
I was planning on just ignoring the invite for the fix on my wife's 2.0TDI, it doesn't look worthwhile and see reports of power loss/less drivability.
 
so... any where I can check to see if my 2008 2.0 TDI Jetta 140 needs to be recalled?


..... Ignore. found it. I am not affected :)
 
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Received the letter to take my car in. (13 reg polo 1.6 TDi). Can't say i'm in much of a rush! I'll probably wait till June when i'll take it in for it's MOT and servicing too.
 
had our works van done recently and no issues, doesnt feel any different to drive so not worried.

apparently the 1.6 has a small piece fitted in the in airbox as well as the software but not much more.
 
muon said:
Until you show me a higher rate of failure after the fix compared to before, with actual evidence, then you are speculating. There are a large number of Golf TDIs on the road in the UK. An EGR fault is a frequent fault (an example on honestjohn of a car having it replaced 5 times).

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/volkswagen/golf-vi-2009/?section=good

See 20-12-2016.

If you want, go ahead with your speculation to a stubborn dealer and see how far you get.

Just go through that page and see how many times EGR is mentioned prior to the rollout of the fix in the last few months.
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Part of VW's emission fix pre checks is to run a diagnostics on the car first before applying any software update or physical change as explained to myself over the phone by VW themselves.

So my EGR would have flagged at this point and they would (should) have contacted me to inform me prior to the fix being applied.
 
Hi
New member here - just had a NOx re call done on my 3 year old tiguan along with mot and service. VW group full of assurances about the re-call but vehicle definitely not the same after being done.
The smooth dynamics of the car has gone - under power theres no problems, but on over-run and light throttle its now jittery and not a smooth ride. This is more pronounced on reaching normal engine temperature.
The mpg has definitely dropped. On similar/like for like journeys I'm getting 5 mpg less than before. I have tried a higher octane fuel but this hasnt helped either the ride or mpg. Its a 2 litre 4 motion and has been a gem to drive before the recall.
The problem is I suppose a subjective one and after having the car back for a re check the only response has been " its within vw group parameters".
Nice polite people - but not able to help.
Sorry to moan on first time but wondered if this was a common occurrence amongst other tiguan owners.
Really makes you think about changing manufacturer when coming to change the vehicle. Cheers for now - Dronenaut.
 
muon said:
Until you show me a higher rate of failure after the fix compared to before, with actual evidence, then you are speculating. There are a large number of Golf TDIs on the road in the UK. An EGR fault is a frequent fault (an example on honestjohn of a car having it replaced 5 times).

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/volkswagen/golf-vi-2009/?section=good

See 20-12-2016.

If you want, go ahead with your speculation to a stubborn dealer and see how far you get.

Just go through that page and see how many times EGR is mentioned prior to the rollout of the fix in the last few months.
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It's not very scientific due to the small sample size (and potential flucation in users of the site) but if we are using that page as a guide, when you consider the 1.6TDI fix only became available this year, the rate of failure on that engine is arguably higher following the fix than it was before (multiple reported vehicles in under a month, compared to a vehicle every couple of months on average). There's also examples like EGR valve replaced in November after 59k miles, NOx fix on 1st Feb, and a couple of weeks later EGR having problems again.

EGR may be a frequent fault but that doesn't rule out the possibility it could be even more frequent following the fix. It is speculation but the speculation is enough to put me off.
 
My 2011 golf broke down, the air mass filter had gone. The VW dealer had it in for repair and did the emissions fix without asking my permission. Don't know if it's the new air mass filter or the fix but the car is a devil to start now. It starts, splutters and dies. Once I've got it started it runs fine. It's been back to the dealer, but as I drove it there it was runnng fine by then. They plugged it in to diagnostics which unsurprisingly showed nothing wrong.
Anyone else experienced starting problems after the fix? Or after a new air mass filter?
 
HangTime said:
It's not very scientific due to the small sample size (and potential flucation in users of the site) but if we are using that page as a guide, when you consider the 1.6TDI fix only became available this year, the rate of failure on that engine is arguably higher following the fix than it was before (multiple reported vehicles in under a month, compared to a vehicle every couple of months on average). There's also examples like EGR valve replaced in November after 59k miles, NOx fix on 1st Feb, and a couple of weeks later EGR having problems again.

EGR may be a frequent fault but that doesn't rule out the possibility it could be even more frequent following the fix. It is speculation but the speculation is enough to put me off.
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If you revisit the Honest John Forum regarding Tiguans loosing power, there is an EX-VW service manager posting on there i was reading it last night. some quite good technical info and would offer an explanation for EGR failure and exessive DPF filter activity.
 
Had my scirocco 'fixed' yesterday along DSg oil and filter change.
Can't say I've really noticed any difference - been out in it a couple of times and seems more or less the same.

I did however kick off at the VW garage and insisted that its been independantly checked by two seperate garages before it came to VW (only had it a month or so). Said if theres any EGR problems afterwards I will be dumping it on their lawn for them to fix. Service advisor reassured me that if theres any issues VW will offer a 'good-will' gesture to fix. I'll be holding them to that!
 
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