How is that going to help? In fact, Microsoft will be doing the same for xbox 360 this year!ElRazur said:Sony Computer Entertainment has started production on the previously announced 65nm CELL processor. All PlayStation 3 units so far have a 90nm processor inside, but this will change soon. As it seems Sony has started the massproduction of the 65nm processor, and this will have a few advantages.
First of all, this will mean a price cut for Sony on every PlayStation 3 sold. This is because the 65nm CELL processor is cheaper than the 90nm processor.
And second, this means a heatreduction for the PlayStation 3.
Also this 'new' processor is not only for the PlayStation 3, it's will also be used for more Sony or Toshiba products.
Whether this new 65nm processor will be in all PlayStation 3 units at the European launch is unknown. We expect Sony to announce this in the coming months. Don't expect a price drop though, because Sony will still lose a lot of money with this 'new' processor.
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barnettgs said:
Excellent not worth bothering with the high priced one, wait a year get the newer model cheaper. More reliable, cooler and faster.
Just for the idiots that kept posting in the 360's thread thinking the 65 chip version would be all those things
barnettgs said:
It will mean sony will be losing less on each console sold. (and future price drops will be easier to implement due to reduced production costs). This of course will mean nothing for us as consumers as the console will still be the same price.
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Burned_Alive said:The guy you're quoting to begin with isnt me, so might want to refer to him
Your question is irrelevant because (and i repeat this for the 2nd or 3rd time, yet you still dont seem to get it) the price point of the console is too high, BEFORE you take any other factors into consideration related to the uk market or any other market.
Yes I made an error but this whole reply was still in line if you care to see it. How is my question irrelevant? How can you claim the price is too high and not take other factors into consideration? Especially those factors you are STILL refusing to answer.
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Kronologic said:
The Original one was "Love me or hate me. I'm like HIV you cant get rid of me" If was removed due to complaints (dont ask me!) so i made this new one...Makes sense now?
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ElRazur said:
I don't know many people that love HIV.
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Kronologic said:
I dont expect you to understand - It is battle line. Basically it is saying one is unstopabble. Dosent matter whether you love hiv or not...that is not the point. Anyway, back on track
wedgie22 said:
You seem to focus 90% of your post on failures without any consideration for the successes. I was just pointing out that there are a huge number of successes and in my book anything that lasts well over a decade as Betamax did has to be classified as a success (I never stated it was commercially a success, but Sony actually supporting it and producing new equipment for that long isnt in any means a failure)
I felt your post was very derogatory to a company that has had vast success in the majority of things it has tried, and in every manufacturing group has had award winning products , but you SOLELY focus on the "failures" - somewhat biased to say the least.
Well dohhhhhh of course it has ground to catch up - and product that is released after its major competitor will have ground to catch up no matter what!!
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ElRazur said:
Oh give up, if you actually dont understand what ive said clearly answers your question then there absolutely no point continuing with this, its a very simple concept stated very simply. Go back and read it, im not going to keep repeating myself.
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Burned_Alive said:
Erm I understand your point from the onset but....You know what forget it! Im sure everything is out there on the boards.
Burned_Alive said:
I would say that was your original question. The second part of that post is complete gibberish like many of your posts. They make sense to you but not the rest of the english speaking world.ElRazur said:
No it's not it's in white, there's no reason to highlight the nonsense after it.ElRazur said:For clarity, the original question is highlighted in yellow for you - so you dont miss it again
He doesn't, he doesn't even understand who he is quoting half the time.Burned_Alive said:
I only made the comments in response to a sarcastic remark about how they knew what they were doing, I merely showed that they don't necessarily.FrankJH said:
just because beta max lost against its competition doesnt mean they dont know what they're doing .
they didn't get as big as they are by making mistakes they did it by been successful
basically its ridiculous that your writing blu ray off on based past sony failures when sales and exclusive support show it clearly isn't failing
they didn't get as big as they are by making mistakes they did it by been successful
basically its ridiculous that your writing blu ray off on based past sony failures when sales and exclusive support show it clearly isn't failing
I concur with Wedgie in that
They = who are they?
vats = i assume VAT, set by the government so is 'they' governments of different nations?
forces of demand and supply = you can make a supply but demand you can only influence mainly by price, how this is related to the government i dont know
prices for manufacturing for the UK market = why would you have a price for manufacturing for the UK market?
Your 'question' requires a great deal of clearing up before anyone can attempt to answer it.
Was your actual question. You punctuate the second part with a question mark but it doesnt even deserve that. It doesnt make any sense.
They = who are they?
vats = i assume VAT, set by the government so is 'they' governments of different nations?
forces of demand and supply = you can make a supply but demand you can only influence mainly by price, how this is related to the government i dont know
prices for manufacturing for the UK market = why would you have a price for manufacturing for the UK market?
Your 'question' requires a great deal of clearing up before anyone can attempt to answer it.
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gord said:
My head hurts from all of these so i will give it one more go.
I was asking How is it a rip off.
I was asking and stating that they (sony) dont make the VAT. Not in control of the forces of demand and supply per sey and not in control of the manufacturing prices for the ps3 units in the UK market (it will be cheaper to make in say china than an european country etc)
But then he sees no relevant of that to the discussion. Take all of these into consideration and i belive that one will see that the price is not ridiculous like he (Burned Alive) was trying to paint.
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Its no coincidence that all electrical goods are more expensive in the UK than the US and Japan. As Elrazur said the Value Added taxes are higher than in the US. Im not sure if PS3s are manufactured in the UK but if they are then land is very expensive. Importing the components isnt cheap either as I believe companies have to pay import tax?
I told you why it was too expensive, I answered that exact question.ElRazur said:
"vats and the forces of demand and supply or prices for manufacturing it for the uk market" don't even come into it. The same factors affect the 360 and that isn't widely regarded as being too expensive.
Who said they don't know what they are doing? Not me.andy8271 said:
Who said Sony wasn't successful? Again, not me.andy8271 said:
Who wrote off Blu-Ray? Once again, I have not said that.andy8271 said:
Why is it that if someone makes a negative comment about the PS3 they are automatically accused of being a biased Sony basher?
I have made positive comments about they PS3, I think the launch line up of games is possibly the best ever and I have said this before. I have also said I hope it succeeds and believe it will in the end, and that I expect to buy one at some point. Why should I have to list every plus point for the PS3 each time I make a negative comment, just so I don't get accused of Sony hating.
The idea of having any kind of loyalty to any one console/manufacturer over another is ludicrous, I have no reason to be biased for or against any console.
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wedgie22 said:
Off course it comes in to it. Cell is a new technology and that alone is enough. 360 i belive was built on existing technology so i dont see how you can compare 360 in terms of prices
It is a rip off because it is more expensive than the xbox 360. In another thread I see ElRazur posted an article about how they are equal, no differences (although it then said something about the 360 being better), so your paying double the price for something which is so similiar?
ElRazur said:Off course it comes in to it. Cell is a new technology and that alone is enough. 360 i belive was built on existing technology so i dont see how you can compare 360 in terms of prices
I don't care how much they spent on research, the fact it has the 'Cell' in it offers very little extra to the consumer.
I've explained why I belive it to be too expensive, I see no reason why you should require me to explain it again.ElRazur said:Off course it comes in to it. Cell is a new technology and that alone is enough. 360 i belive was built on existing technology so i dont see how you can compare 360 in terms of prices
The Cell being new technology or the PS3 being sold for a loss is irrelevant to the fact that it is overpriced. Read my original answer for a more in depth explanation.