*** Weekend Football - 14th / 15th ***

Read this on ESPN, Rofled a bit.

Ironically, if Platini's brainchild of having two extra assistants behind the goal, which the Frenchman is trialling in the Europa League, had been in action, Henry's handball would have been detected and the UEFA chief's countrymen prevented from progressing.
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So be careful what you wish for eh Michelle?
 
gazzamcg said:
Henry did cheat, but I bet you 99% of people would have done the same if it resulted in their national side going to the world cup.
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To me that's not the issue though. People will always cheat to get ahead.

The worst thing to me is that there is nothing in place to stop this sort of thing. We've seen it already this season with the Ngog and Eduardo dives, and now with the Henry handball. There have to be video referral systems.
 
Fair play to Robbie Keane for saying what everyone was thinking.

I wonder if the referee had asked Henry if he had handled it what Henry would have said then. I always thought he was a **** but didn't expect him to prove it so magnificently on the world stage.
 
I know it is pointless but it might have some small effect on the conscience of FIFA as a "fairplay" organisation.

I have emailed them the following message:

Subject: Ireland vs France replay

To whom it may concern,

I would like to add my voice to all those calling for a replay of the Ireland vs France world cup qualifying match.

You claim to support fairplay and yet uphold the result of a match which was won by the exact opposite of your supposed ideals.

If you truly do support fairplay then you will schedule a replay of the match in Paris.

Yours sincerely,
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If anyone else would like to join me in this message then just go here:
http://www.fifa.com/contact/form.html

and copy and paste my message into the box.
 
You're urinating into the wind there mate I'm afraid. A precedent will *never* be made of a refereeing gaff in a previous match. The only thing they might do is slap the ref on the wrists and give him next week off, which as we've seen in the premier league means sod all to anyone, including the ref. The goaline ref is the best they are going to come up with I'm afraid to prevent this thing in the future. Though I woud still like to see retrospective lengthy bans for cheating behaviour. There is simlpy no deterant as it is, the reward far outweighs the risk.
 
Darg said:
I know it is pointless but it might have some small effect on the conscience of FIFA as a "fairplay" organisation.

I have emailed them the following message:

Subject: Ireland vs France replay



If anyone else would like to join me in this message then just go here:
http://www.fifa.com/contact/form.html

and copy and paste my message into the box.
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Done. I know it's highly unlikely but if enough people protest maybe they'll do something about it.
 
They won't do anything to Henry. Even though he is lying he's admitted it was handball, he just says it wasn't done on purpose.

We can all see that isn't the case, but can it be proven?
 
I can understand people being a bit peeved, but the idea the game might be replayed is pretty laughable. Tbh I think most of the 'uproar' is because Ireland were the underdogs, if it was the other way round and Ireland scored a goal from a dubious handball to put France out I imagine people would be ROFLing instead of crying out for a replay.

I watch American football now and then, I simply don't see ANY cheating that isn't dealt with immediately, but realistically theres next to no real cheating anyway nothing, video replay is almost exclusive used for incidents where they simply couldn't see things in real time, introduce video replays, all cheating is caught and within weeks people would stop cheating.
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Just saw this too - wait while I gather my breath a minute...it happens *ALL* the time, they play right on the edge, late hits, pass interference, early starts, blocking, grabbing jerseys, you name it, it happens - sometimes they get away with it, sometimes they don't - watch more than 'now and again' and even *with* video replays there is still tons of analysis on whether the ref made the right call, whether a player 'cheated' to get an unfair advantage. The idea that video replays stop cheating is laughable :p

Pick another sport which uses video replay - cricket. Do players always walk when they feel an edge? Claim bump-ball catches? Tampering with the ball? None of that seems to have been prevented by video replays, nor do the umpires always get it 'right' even with video replays again.

How about rugby? Citing commissions have existed for a while now, yet players still play on the edge, illegal rucking, dangerous tackles, will claim trys when they know they went into touch, hell look at Bloodgate recently...
 
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Shamikebab said:
Henry has always been the sort of player who would take it as far as he could get away with it.
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LOL oh here we go...could say exactly the same thing about your beloved Ronaldo 'Mr touch me just a bit and ill fall over in agony':p

Gutted for the Irish as i thought they definitely out-played the French and deserve to be in the WC rather than a very boring French side.

Saying that Henry is right...its not down to him to say anything..its down to the ref..perhaps he should have said to the ref that i handled the ball but tell me Shamikebab would you have held your hands up and admitted it..knowing that it could cost you a place in the WC....no you wouldnt and neither would anyone else if it could potentially cost them a place in the WC.

Still like Henry despite the handball but the refs need to be more on the ball...and there should be video replays etc...i mean football is now a joke with the refs...week in week out theres always some ref ****ing up....its time these refs are given some sort of punishment.

I also agree with some sort of video replay technology being employed...sure refs are human and they make mistakes but with video replays at least the mistakes are cut down by quite a bit but i dont expect to see anything done about it thanks to that little snivelling idiot Platini, who must be over the moon that the French are in the WC rather than some small nation ie Ireland.


But just another point i want to make...at the end of the day the Irish have only themselves to blame...it was terrible defending for both of their goals...if they had put a bit more effort into their defending then perhaps it would be Ireland in the WC rather than the French.
 
Rich_L said:
I can understand people being a bit peeved, but the idea the game might be replayed is pretty laughable. Tbh I think most of the 'uproar' is because Ireland were the underdogs, if it was the other way round and Ireland scored a goal from a dubious handball to put France out I imagine people would be ROFLing instead of crying out for a replay.
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To be fair im sure "rofling" is what all the french people are doing right now, and im sure everyone in the UK would have done the same as them has it been the other way around

Either way it wasn't a fair way to win, as they won via breaking the rules and getting away with it, that's like kicking the golf ball closer to the hole in a game of golf or as a more realistic example...biting a blood capsule to get yourself substituted in a rugby match..lol..either way, it should be replayed.....it wont....but it should!
 
Gilly said:
Here we go? Are you saying he is wrong? Henry has always pushed the envelope on what is cheating and what is gaining an unfair advantage.

Last night he cheated. No excuse.
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Im not saying he didnt cheat...all im saying is that theres no point in having a dig at Henry when in reality its down the ref to have seen that or the linesmen to have seen that and disallowed the goal. In hindsight Henry should have held his hands up but he didnt and im pretty sure other players would have done the same;).

Henry is no different to other players ie Drogba, Ronaldo amongst others...they all push the envelope to gain an unfair advantage.
 
Spawn said:
Saying that Henry is right...its not down to him to say anything..its down to the ref..perhaps he should have said to the ref that i handled the ball but tell me Shamikebab would you have held your hands up and admitted it..knowing that it could cost you a place in the WC....no you wouldnt and neither would anyone else if it could potentially cost them a place in the WC.
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Nope I wouldn't, but I'm not a **** I wouldn't cheat in the first place. I could go around downloading aimbots and other hacks for video games, do I? No, because I'm not a ****. Saying that it's down to the ref is just stupid. Well we might as well teach all players to cheat and hope the ref doesn't see it then? In fact if I ever have a son, I'll make diving and faking injury the second thing I teach him after passing I think :rolleyes:
 
Cheating is cheating, you can't justify it by saying things like 'everyone does it' or 'it's up to the ref to do something' or 'you'd have done the same thing'.

All of those things are irrelevant, Henry cheated to get a goal and it's as simple as that, whether you or I would have done the same thing is a pointless argument.

The tournament is tarnished before it even gets going imo.

All Henry is saying is that he'll do it as long as he doesn't get caught and that is a very sad thing to hear.
 
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