How would you "improve" the game my dear?
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How would you "improve" the game my dear?
Sorting out the officiating would be a fantastic start. Putting some kind of rules in to restrict teams like Real Madrid, Chelsea and Man City achieving their hollow successes due to some rich man who doesn't give two hoots about football. Not being petty and unprofessional and criticising our league at every chance. I dunno, haven't given enough thought to it
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He handled the ball twice in the France area in the game, infact he was given two fouls against him for it.
In that clip he handled the ball and then was offside, why wasn't he screaming at the ref that he was guilty and it wasn't a penalty
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Well you said that Ireland "deserved" to go through, implying that you thought they were the better team over the two legs - therefore the fact that they were outplayed in the first leg is completely relevant.
That said, this conversation is pretty irrelevant to the whole cheating thing
Fair enough, I hadn't heard that before; I'd have expected that bit of the interview to be better publicised, but that would leave the media without somebody to put the boot into!
Like I've said already, what must be looked at first is cutting bad decisions and cheating out of the game. If Fifa make it impossible for players to cheat by improving the standard of officiating and bringing in extra officials or replays, then players won't cheat.
It is secondary, in my opinion, as to whether to punish Henry; as others have already pointed out, he's not the first player to cheat, so should really receive no different treatment to those who have done so in the past.
What this incident should (but apparently hasn't) have done is to flag to Fifa the problems with cheating and the standards of refereeing which are present in football, and driven them to do something about it. Unfortunately Fifa is run by spineless incompetents.
EDIT: Sorry for the double post.
I agree, I'd improve and make the rules clearer. I'd also ask game officals to work in teams all the time, which I think would help improve things.
I also agree on the money side of it, How would you stop teams spending shed loads of money?
I think it's down to individual FA's to sort out owners though, the English FA don't actually give a ****. They will let anyone take over a club, look at Pompy and Manchester City when they had the Thai bloke in charge.
The FA need to sort themselves out. Shambles of a organisation.
In that clip he handled the ball and then was offside, why wasn't he screaming at the ref that he was guilty and it wasn't a penalty
Robbie Keane is a *****.
He's just saying what people want to hear, instead of saying "well I missed a couple of sitters".
It's a bit like Drogba, saying it was a disgrace that Chelsea went out, if Drogba took his chances and didn't act like a ****, the result could have being different. Directing attention away from your short fallings.
"Henry knocked Ireland out"
Well in part yes, but Ireland had chances to win the game, they didn't and were punished by a poor peice of play from the officals and a player seeking to gain an advantage (of which every single player on that pitch would have done).
'Arry now gets to put his arguement in for video replays, which falls flat on its face.
By the letter of the law, there was a penalty on Anelka in that game, a video replay would have picked that up.
Technology would tear football apart, FIFA understand this.
Well in part yes, but Ireland had chances to win the game, they didn't and were punished by a poor peice of play from the officals and a player seeking to gain an advantage (of which every single player on that pitch would have done).
'Arry now gets to put his arguement in for video replays, which falls flat on its face.
By the letter of the law, there was a penalty on Anelka in that game, a video replay would have picked that up.
Technology would tear football apart, FIFA understand this.
Ireland should not replay the match with france if they do then I want argentina vs england replayed.
It's a harsh but they cannot allow this when they haven't done it for any other previous incidents such as this in games.
Ireland need to get over it and move on.
It's a harsh but they cannot allow this when they haven't done it for any other previous incidents such as this in games.
Ireland need to get over it and move on.
Huge outcry in Ireland about this.
The Facebook group has over 230,000 fans since yesterday. Madness!
There's a march on Saturday outside the French Embassy
Henry admits that a reply would be fair
I doubt we'll get a replay but it's still worth shouting for.
The Facebook group has over 230,000 fans since yesterday. Madness!
There's a march on Saturday outside the French Embassy
Henry admits that a reply would be fair
I doubt we'll get a replay but it's still worth shouting for.
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Saying they had ample chances doesn't stand up. Because they had a few chances that went to waste doesn't mean France's goal was any less crucial. If anything, it shows just how against play it was and why many feel Ireland were robbed. There were 3 great chances for Ireland to go 2-0 up but none of which were easy. O'Shea had the keeper to beat from a tight angle, Duff had the keeper ontop of him whilst being pressured heavilly, and Keane had to beat the keeper in minimal space to have any chance of scoring.
Ahh 
However, saying we were "robbed" is easy, and is directing attention away from the fact Ireland (who I thought were the better side over two legs) didn't do enough to win the game. They missed chances, and could have put the game to bed. They didn't and as a result were knocked out by a poor decision from the officals. This happens in football, swings and roundabouts.
It's like Chelsea last season, Drogba missed chances, but that wasn't the reason they lost! It was the ref and the million pens they should have had.
However, saying we were "robbed" is easy, and is directing attention away from the fact Ireland (who I thought were the better side over two legs) didn't do enough to win the game. They missed chances, and could have put the game to bed. They didn't and as a result were knocked out by a poor decision from the officals. This happens in football, swings and roundabouts.
It's like Chelsea last season, Drogba missed chances, but that wasn't the reason they lost! It was the ref and the million pens they should have had.
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Ahh
However, saying we were "robbed" is easy, and is directing attention away from the fact Ireland (who I thought were the better side over two legs) didn't do enough to win the game. They missed chances, and could have put the game to bed. They didn't and as a result were knocked out by a poor decision from the officals. This happens in football, swings and roundabouts.
It's like Chelsea last season, Drogba missed chances, but that wasn't the reason they lost! It was the ref and the million pens they should have had.
And yet the fact remains that they were still robbed.
And yet the fact remains that they were still robbed.
I beg to differ, that's just football.
You win some games you should have lost, and you lose games you should have won.
The easy thing to do is blame something / someone else for your loss.
I agree it was a bad decision but the witch hunt and Irish reaction is laughable.
ON the other hand, something like this puts real 'cheating' into perspective 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8370748.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8370748.stm
I think it's important that we kick up a massive fuss about it. We may not get a replay (very unlikely) but it may change the way FIFA handle these situations during play. We have the technology now to spot fouls like these, we don't have to rely on the ref. It's ridiculous that it's still the way it is.
So you'd have technology?
Ireland would ( by the letter of the law ) of given away a foul and pen on Anelka.
Fifa understand that technology would divide and split football, it would create a two tier system of football.
Techonology is not the answer.
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So you'd have technology?
Ireland would ( by the letter of the law ) of given away a foul and pen on Anelka.
Fifa understand that technology would divide and split football, it would create a two tier system of football.
Techonology is not the answer.
Agreed. As an Arsenal fan I'm against introducing technology anyway.