** Weekend Football Thread ** *spoilers*

Tummy said:
Doesn't matter, you hope he didn't give that because Hull had 10 men.

Ref's aren't suposed to try and "balance" things, they're on the pitch to enforce the laws of the game ?

If he was giving a free kick for the foul out side the box, he should be giving a foul for it inside the box.

I plain and simply, don't think the Ref had the balls to give a penalty against Liverpool.

Which is a shame, because a ref should be able to give any decision anywhere.
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And if a ref doesn't give a foul for a challenge inside the box it shouldn't be a foul outside the box.

Neither Skrtel's or Carra's challenges were fouls. He made a poor decision to give a foul for the Carra incident.
 
How did he give that penalty? The way people were saying it was an easy mistake for the ref to make I figured Gomez had hardly touched the ball but you can see quite clearly see the ball totally changes direction.
 
BaZ87 said:
And if a ref doesn't give a foul for a challenge inside the box it shouldn't be a foul outside the box.

Neither Skrtel's or Carra's challenges were fouls. He made a poor decision to give a foul for the Carra incident.
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Actually forgot they were that way round. My mistake.

If the ref didn't give it the first time, he shouldn't give it the second. That is how you become a bad ref, you should be giving the same decisions all the time.

Sunderland aren't looking too good.
 
Watching the replay in slowmo it shows Carrick touches the ball 1st then Gomez gets a slight hand on it but ends up sending Carrick over


Why isn't that a pen? (I'm not looking for an argument just clarification as I'm on the fence)
 
Scratchy said:
How did he give that penalty? The way people were saying it was an easy mistake for the ref to make I figured Gomez had hardly touched the ball but you can see quite clearly see the ball totally changes direction.
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Ask Howard Webb ?

Write him a letter :)

I don't think the penalty mattered much, United were flying forward, they'd have scored and probably won, with or without that.
 
JBuk said:
Watching the replay in slowmo it shows Carrick touches the ball 1st then Gomez gets a slight hand on it but ends up sending Carrick over


Why isn't that a pen? (I'm not looking for an argument just clarification as I'm on the fence)
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Tummy said:
Carricks left foot knocked the ball or tried to knock it round the keeper ;)

Penalty :p
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Said that earlier.

Carricks touch would have let him get round the keeper.
 
Tummy said:
Actually forgot they were that way round. My mistake.

If the ref didn't give it the first time, he shouldn't give it the second. That is how you become a bad ref, you should be giving the same decisions all the time.

Sunderland aren't looking too good.
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As i initially said he gave it because of the pressure he was under due to the reaction of the Hull crowd after the red card. Like it or not but it happens all the time.

You barely ever see a foul given for a player putting himself inbetween the attacker and ball (if he's letting it run out for a goal kick or to run through to the keeper) and you see far worse incidents than what Skrtel or Carra done.
 
BaZ87 said:
As i initially said he gave it because of the pressure he was under due to the reaction of the Hull crowd after the red card. Like it or not but it happens all the time.

You barely ever see a foul given for a player putting himself inbetween the attacker and ball (if he's letting it run out for a goal kick or to run through to the keeper) and you see far worse incidents than what Skrtel or Carra done.
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Aye, looks that way. I'm sorry I thought the fouls were the other way round :)

Ref's this year have being really poor.
 
Regardless of which way round the fouls were, anybody can see that free-kicks and pens just aren't given for what happened in either incident.
 
I don't think its as clear cut as some make out, as the ref sees it, Carrick knocks the ball round him, I don't think he can possibly see the slight deflection off Gomes. I certainly didn't realise he'd touched it till I saw a replay.

And to say it was defining in the game is crap, we were by far the better team for the entire second half, before and after the penalty.
 
BaZ87 said:
Regardless of which way round the fouls were, anybody can see that free-kicks and pens just aren't given for what happened in either incident.
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You see I agree, but if a ref gives a freekick outside the area, he must also give it inside the area, I know they were the wrong way round, but not giving the first, he shouldn't of given the second.

Sometimes ref's make mistakes in giving fouls, but if they give the "mistake" all the time, it's easier to take.
 
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