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Sinbad2000

Sinbad2000

Sinbad2000

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Now that the NHS has approved this for people with weight related health problems - does anyone know how to actually get into the program?
My GP has been spectacularly useless. I called them to ask about it, they'd never heard of it... then they did some research and came back saying they didn't prescribe it. They then redirected me to some other weight loss program thing, which when I registered, informed me that I lived in the wrong area for them and I need to go elsewhere - and all of that was just talking/support groups etc. I need the drugs, man!

arggh!
 
jpaul said:
was this the drug Boris was raving about ? - hadn't read his article, but, the results don't look promising.
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I know a couple of people on it and it's cut their cravings/appetite dramatically, which is what I need. I can lose weight by cutting out carbs but the problem is I'm some kind of carb addict and it's _really_ easy to fall off that wagon, even unknowingly and it's an absolute biyatch to get past the cravings that get reignited when that happens.
 
Malevolence said:
How about trying exercise and a better diet rather than relying on drugs?
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Of what relevance was that response? Clearly there's some struggle which necessitates him wanting to try something new that the NHS is offering.

If it was easy enough for everyone to just "exercise and eat better" don't you think they'd decide against offering this treatment?
 
Sinbad2000 said:
I know a couple of people on it and it's cut their cravings/appetite dramatically, which is what I need. I can lose weight by cutting out carbs but the problem is I'm some kind of carb addict and it's _really_ easy to fall off that wagon, even unknowingly and it's an absolute biyatch to get past the cravings that get reignited when that happens.
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I think you need to get a referral to the weight loss clinic and from there, they may be able to prescribe it to. Also it is more commonly known as semaglutide, that might help with the familiarity when speaking to doctors.

Do note, if you do not exercise while using this, you will actually be losing muscle mass rather than fat. Which is not desirable.


Regarding the discussion you are having with @Malevolence about drugs vs controlling your eating. One thing to note is that there can be an emotional component to eating and cravings. As an example, when I am stressed, I crave and desire pastries (at one point it was cheeseburgers from McD). I do not know you, or what your life is like. It is just information for you to be aware of and reflect upon.

I wish you all the best.
 
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Chuk_Chuk said:
I think you need to get a referral to the weight loss clinic and from there, they may be able to prescribe it to. Also it is more commonly known as semaglutide, that might help with the familiarity when speaking to doctors.

Do note, if you do not exercise while using this, you will actually be losing muscle mass rather than fat. Which is not desirable.


Regarding the discussion you are having with @Malevolence about drugs vs controlling your eating. One thing to note is that there can be an emotional component to eating and cravings. As an example, when I am stressed, I crave and desire pastries (at one point it was cheeseburgers from McD). I do not know you, or what your life is like. It is just information for you to be aware of.

I wish you all the best.
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Thank you, both for the weight loss clinic info and for the other info and support.
 
Can be easily sourced via a private prescription (Ozempic) if you are willing to pay - most of the news sites a few months back had articles superficially appearing to condemn how easy it is to get hold of whilst also explaining in detail how to get it lol.
 
IIRC you need to be under a specialist for your weight issues to be prescribed it, I don't think it's handed out by GPs which is why they won't have heard of it.

The chance of them just offering it to you outright will be quite low I'd imagine unless you've got serious issues, they generally expect to see some weight loss under your own steam first before moving onto to other treatments.

As n111ck says it's very easy to get hold of through places like Boots if you can stomach the massive cost per month especially when you move up to the higher doses.

It's also not a walk in the park in terms of bang in a needle once a week and lose weight. It can and does leave many people feeling very rough with digestive issues.
 
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n111ck said:
Can be easily sourced via a private prescription (Ozempic) if you are willing to pay - most of the news sites a few months back had articles superficially appearing to condemn how easy it is to get hold of whilst also explaining in detail how to get it lol.
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As I understand it, ozempic is a much lower dose than wegovy (0.5 vs 2.5mg), ozempic is indicated for diabetes control and is used off-label for weight loss by people who can't get the wegovy (which is indicated for weight loss).
 
I'm 49 and have just lost 90lbs in about 1 year by dieting. it's hard resisting temptation but worth it. not saying those who want to take a drug route shouldn't, if i'd failed to lose weight i would've considered the drug route, wouldn't consider surgery though.
 
Sinbad2000 said:
As I understand it, ozempic is a much lower dose than wegovy (0.5 vs 2.5mg), ozempic is indicated for diabetes control and is used off-label for weight loss by people who can't get the wegovy (which is indicated for weight loss).
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You get less in each pen rather than it being a lower dose as such. The mg dosing is the same for either as they're the same medication.
 
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Delta3D said:
If it was easy enough for everyone to just "exercise and eat better" don't you think they'd decide against offering this treatment?
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They offer this because people are ******* lazy. The NHS deals with a huge number of preventable illnesses because people can't be bothered to do something and know the NHS will pick up the pieces when anything happens. A friend has been warned for years he will get diabetes if he doesn't reduce his sugar intake. Shockingly he was recently diagnosed with diabetes.

The NHS have 2 options. Pay X amount for a treatment or pay Y amount for a treatment. It doesn't matter why people have that illness or if its 100% preventable, they are on the hook no matter the reason. This is why we do gastric bands as well. £10k now for an op that might save them £50k in the future is a no brainer.

And no, having a good diet and exercise is not super easy. It requires a complete change in your mindset and behaviour for many people. That being said, I refer you to my first point. People are ******* lazy. They drive to the stops that are 5 minutes walk away. They drive to work when its a 10-15 minute walk away. They drive to the park that is 20 minutes walk away. People are ******* lazy.
 
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