Everything about this country has been designed to enable this laziness for decades and I think it was intentional as a means for the even more lazy politicians to bloviate about how useless people are whilst doing everything they can to impede any sort of measure to go in the opposite direction.
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Nah mate you are wrong and don't understand!
But on a serious note, yeah its laziness. 100 years ago, we didn't have this problem.
We have the most gyms (some 24hr) open in history, yet every year obesity and diabetes in people are rising. Have that make sense.
Its far easier to sell the prescription than the cure.
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Caporegime
We have the most gyms (some 24hr) open in history, yet every year obesity and diabetes in people are rising. Have that make sense.
To be fair, I never go to the gym and never have because I would probably blow my brains out. I do sports. I climb, I cycle, I walk and I have played pretty much every sport under the sun in my younger days. 90% of weight loss is diet as well. The problem is there is never any push back anymore. If you tell someone they are talking **** about being unable to lose weight people jump on you (hopefully not the fatties).
Its become entirely normalised to be overweight.
If only people were having to buy it. Unfortunately we are giving it away, by which I mean our taxes are being thrown into a pit.
Yes - it does the same thing (same drug) but wegovy is more effective as higher dose - I dont think wegovy is readily available here whereas Ozempic is.
Caporegime
It's very expensive isn't it?
Good luck getting it on the NHS but your money... Go for it.
Sweden doesn't even get these on their NHS system zero supply, way too costly
I think it's a brilliant thing will slash costs of healthcare in the long term for loads of people. Win win.
It's like a nicotine patch though. It helps but you need a lifestyle change really. If you do both though you'll have excess skin in a year.
Good luck getting it on the NHS but your money... Go for it.
Sweden doesn't even get these on their NHS system zero supply, way too costly
I think it's a brilliant thing will slash costs of healthcare in the long term for loads of people. Win win.
It's like a nicotine patch though. It helps but you need a lifestyle change really. If you do both though you'll have excess skin in a year.
Soldato
I had to move a bloke on Wednesday that weighed in excess of 35st. He was happily wheezing at me about how proud he is of the fact that he's never worked a day in his life and that he can carry on shovelling vast quantities of crap down his gullet whilst the NHS pays out tens of thousands of pounds to treat his numerous conditions.
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Caporegime
Mental illness is a horrible thing.
Soldato
I've no room to talk on fitness these days. But when I was really fit I noticed that when it comes to carbs a lot of it is body habit.
For example, for me if I eat at noon every day and one day I forget to eat then within the hour my body will become hungry.
It also works the same on portion size. For snacks, if you usually eat a bag of crisps at a certain time, eg 7pm.. then your body will crave crisps at 7pm. You can either ignore the cravings and after a few days the cravings disappear. Or if you really craze crisps, open a packet and eat only a couple of crisps. That tricks the body in to thinking you've had the crisps.
Remember, some cravings can also come from dehydration. The body doesn't have a dehydration urge so it instead uses the hunger urge. So if you're dehydrated its easy to start over eating.
For example, for me if I eat at noon every day and one day I forget to eat then within the hour my body will become hungry.
It also works the same on portion size. For snacks, if you usually eat a bag of crisps at a certain time, eg 7pm.. then your body will crave crisps at 7pm. You can either ignore the cravings and after a few days the cravings disappear. Or if you really craze crisps, open a packet and eat only a couple of crisps. That tricks the body in to thinking you've had the crisps.
Remember, some cravings can also come from dehydration. The body doesn't have a dehydration urge so it instead uses the hunger urge. So if you're dehydrated its easy to start over eating.
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unfortunately ozempic is becoming nearly impossible to get hold of too with recent supply issues nationally and probably internationally. It's an absolute nightmare currently as a prescriber as I've had dozens of messages in last week about how pharmacies cant get it, or only at the lower dose
Soldato
No wonder the NHS is in a mess.
There is a limited number of doctors nurses and money to fund medicine.
Personally, I'd rather than money and resource to be put towards, say... a child involved in a traffic accident, then some middle aged lazy fit, with every excuse under the sun.
Eat less, move more. You don't need to go to a gym and be running 10k's and benching 240lbs, just go for a walk, walking is great for weight loss, it's free and you don't need any equipment. I love walking usually an hour a day, occasionally go for longer walks on weekends etc it's the ONLY exercise I do, I can't run, I can't lift any weights really, can't do one chin up lol, but it's just about enough imo.
Saying that I'm going for a swim in the sea today, but that'll be one of the few occasions a year.
But your attitude of its harder for me, is just an excuse to justify it to yourself. Guess what buddy, it's hard for most people. Either just get really fat and enjoy that, or do something, but trying to get some drug at the expense of the tax payer is just disgraceful.
There is a limited number of doctors nurses and money to fund medicine.
Personally, I'd rather than money and resource to be put towards, say... a child involved in a traffic accident, then some middle aged lazy fit, with every excuse under the sun.
Eat less, move more. You don't need to go to a gym and be running 10k's and benching 240lbs, just go for a walk, walking is great for weight loss, it's free and you don't need any equipment. I love walking usually an hour a day, occasionally go for longer walks on weekends etc it's the ONLY exercise I do, I can't run, I can't lift any weights really, can't do one chin up lol, but it's just about enough imo.
Saying that I'm going for a swim in the sea today, but that'll be one of the few occasions a year.
But your attitude of its harder for me, is just an excuse to justify it to yourself. Guess what buddy, it's hard for most people. Either just get really fat and enjoy that, or do something, but trying to get some drug at the expense of the tax payer is just disgraceful.
Soldato
This. I lost my weight by walking. And the best thing is I get paid to walk and do about ~30km a day. It's a win/win.
Caporegime
go on im curious. What's the job
Soldato
While I do support the concept of eat less, move more, it’s important to recognise quite how stacked the deck is against healthy lifestyles in western countries. Everything is convenience oriented and too much low quality highly processed food on top of a really poor food culture.
Well... I can get thin but some of you will never get empathy...
Man of Honour
Hospital porter iircgo on im curious. What's the job
what does it matter about the dose size it's the cost/efficiency that counts ?
yes have you looked at the price of gyms and the pool - if they were subsidised or the doctor could hand out vouchers (with proved attendance) then that might help,
even the people who go to my pool now only spend like 30minutes in the pool, my lane are usually in for the full maximum 50minutes now permitted, post covid
He's a crap lady of the night.go on im curious. What's the job
Subsidised/prescription gym does exist ! But then so does free excerise outdoors. My local forest has outdoor gym equipment scattered about , the council run walking schemes. They could maybe try harder but then so could the average person (including me)
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