What A Difference HDMI Makes!

Tony Williams said:
I know, I'm disagreeing with what they say. I was merely stating of what they write on there boxes. Which seems to confuse most 'non-technical minded' people.
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But what was the purpose for stating it?
 
Joebob said:
actually I have a question to throw out there to some of you guys in the know. I have been having intermitant signal loss problems for a little while on my PS3, it doesn't happen very often but often enough. If I lose signal I have to unplug the HDMI lead from the TV and reconnect it, I was pretty certain that this wasn't the PS3 but was down to having a TV (with it being on the lower end of the price bracket for 32" LCD's)... do you think this could be HDMI cable connected?
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Sounds like more TV issue.
 
johnnyfive said:
Because I found it intresting. Why do you like picking arguments.
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No need to act up and throw your toys out of your pram. I was merely curious but too many of you on here are incredibly highly strung!

Relax, quickly, before you snap.

Tony Williams said:
I stated it to help fix any confusion since I've known a lot of people to be misleaded by such and I was actually hoping for positive input on this.
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Thanks for maintaining your composure. :)
 
for my PS2 i have 3 cables. Composite, Blaze gold RGB and a cheap component cable.

the blaze gold is better than the composite. the colours are better as is the definiation of colour and shapes.

the component is better than both. but it only cost me like £7.99 or something. all of these are analogue and subject to interference/noise.

When looking at digital cabling HDMi as pointed out this is digital. i wouldnt want to buy the cheapest of the cheap, and would probably as suggested buy in the £10-20 category.

£60 on a HDMi cable?! its like their marketing department have disbelieveing your own eyes! the dfference between a £20 and £60 HDMi will be negligible @ best. sure spend the money the way you want to - but be wary in recommending others because you simply arent providing the best asvice tbh.
 
johnnyfive said:
can I say you will either get

A Perfect Picture

OR

Picture break up in a BIG way.

No ifs, buts or inbetweens. ON or OFF.
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At the risk of being baited a bit, thats just not true.

If you introduce erroneous data into the bitstream as it is carried down the cable, you will see a defective picture at the output. Almost any carrier of a data signal that relies on voltage change can be broken in non catastrophic ways.

Theres a great way for you to find out for yourself, get one of those piezo electric gas stove lighters and spark that at high speed next to your cheap poorly shielded HDMI cable, you'll see first hand what can happen when inductance is introduced into a cable.
Effectively all you are doing is inducing voltage spikes which corrupt the data stream, but a picture will still be visible, it will be corrupted though. Less intrusive inductance can cause 'sparkles' in the picture such as a mains cable running parallel to the HDMI cable.

Digital does not equal indestructable
 
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Sclodion said:
it will be corrupted though. Less intrusive inductance can cause 'sparkles' in the picture such as a mains cable running parallel to the HDMI cable.
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Sparklies are a fairly major form of corruption and very obvious, unlike a very slight ghosting on analogue signals.

Sclodion said:
Digital does not equal indestructable
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Everyone in this thread knows that. What we are saying is it takes a lot of interference before you see the picture degrade with digital compared to analogue. Even a slight amount of inteference makes itself known on analogue signals, that's the whole point of digital signals! (as well as avoiding the DAC's and ADC's)
 
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Was replying to the guy I quoted who said a digital signal is either perfect or non existant. Merely explaining that there are levels in between.
 
Sclodion said:
Was replying to the guy I quoted who said a digital signal is either perfect or non existant. Merely explaining that there are levels in between.
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Ah I see, my apologies.
 
Tony Williams said:
A=Composite B=HDMI (I seriously doubt A=Component)
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Well, PS3 comes with composite cables as standard so you could argue that composite is 'normal' for it, as in that's what you get out of the box :)
 
Phemo said:
Well, PS3 comes with composite cables as standard so you could argue that composite is 'normal' for it, as in that's what you get out of the box :)
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I didn't know Sony only supplied composite with the PS3, I thought they would have at least bundled hdmi or component with it.

I now feel sorry for all the kids thinking they have the best in graphics when they are still using composite (480i), well I guess thier parents will have to buy a shiny new hdmi cable. :)

Seriously I can't even play my PS2 with composite, let alone a PS3.
 
Tony Williams said:
I didn't know Sony only supplied composite with the PS3, I thought they would have at least bundled hdmi or component with it.

I now feel sorry for all the kids thinking they have the best in graphics when they are still using composite (480i), well I guess thier parents will have to buy a shiny new hdmi cable. :)

Seriously I can't even play my PS2 with composite, let alone a PS3.
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Yes, composite, same as PS2

I remember going from composite to RGB Scart on my PS2 and could not believe the difference, imagine going from 576i composite to 1080p HDMI with a PS3 :eek:

I was at a Sony retail event a month ago and they had a setup with two PS3's, one connected to a CRT and the other to a 1080p LCD and already the difference was big and the connection to the CRT was RGB Scart, not even Composite.
 
Yeah it's totally shocking - for the price you'd at least expect it to come with an HDMI cable - even just a crap one. Composite is unacceptable in my opinion. Needless to say, the composite cable never even came out of my PS3's box as conveniently I had an RGB Scart cable for my PS2 which I used on the PS3 before I bought an HDTV :)
 
Phemo said:
Yeah it's totally shocking - for the price you'd at least expect it to come with an HDMI cable - even just a crap one. Composite is unacceptable in my opinion. Needless to say, the composite cable never even came out of my PS3's box as conveniently I had an RGB Scart cable for my PS2 which I used on the PS3 before I bought an HDTV :)
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Very true mate - it should all be available in the box :mad:
 
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