What a moron

thedazman67 · 12 Sep 2006 at 00:36

I dont even have a pint or any alcohol if i am driving the argument that one will be fine isn't really justified as everyone is different there build, metabolic rate etc all are factors that govern how quickly alcohol leaves a person body a limit for one person maybe different from another person. So i just play it safe and stick to none.

thedazman

Jonny ///M · 12 Sep 2006 at 01:14

Simon said:
I have trouble as a passenger even thinking about how you can drive when drunk. There is no excuse for drink driving, OCuk kudos? LOL-Do I really seem like that? I write stuff I believe, one of my friends auntie is paralysed due to someone like you

There is no way on earth a drunk bloke driving slow is as safe as someone driving fast. Reactions are the biggest problem with being drunk.

Um,going faster = less time to react so if your drunk driving slow surely your reaction time may,on the odd chance,be better than if you where doing 70mph in a 30mph to say......having 2 pints.

We're not talking absolutely wrecked here.....my dad whenever we go for a meal has a pint and a half and drives us home. Thats fine by what i can see in his ability and how he is acting. On the other hand,one night when he came home and my mum took me and my brother to her mums because of how he was acting he drove to my grans........while absolutely drunk.....the car was parked at an angle and the front driver side on the pavement. That is not to be ****ing tollerated. There is,however,a world of difference between a pint or two and being so wrecked you cant walk.

As people have said you know your own ability.I can drink a pint and feel tipsy,my mate can drink till the cows come home and feel fine. There is wayyyyyyy to many variables to set a universal "ive only had one pint so im fine" sort of limit.

jpmonkey69 · 12 Sep 2006 at 10:22

Sone said:
3 pints shoul be okay as long as its long enough (about 3hrs from first drink, depending on person)

3 pints of stella is 9 units, if you lose 1 unit an hour, 3 hours later you still have 6. This is assuming you don't drink for those 3 hours.
There really is no excuse to have even 1 drink and drive. Drink OR drive. Not both. I'll happily go out of an evening as "Des" and drink lemonade/OJ/coke all night. Similarly, if I am not driving, I may drink alcohol.

gurusan · 12 Sep 2006 at 10:30

Just keeping things simple and not drinking ANYTHING when you plan to be driving...or going to the party/pub/whatever without your car is the easiest way to avoid disaster.

Booze does not mix with cars in any way, in any amount.

Nathan · 12 Sep 2006 at 10:40

What colour was the 306? Need some spares

He sounds an absolute plank though, drink driving and messing around with mates? Yeah nice one.

volospian · 12 Sep 2006 at 13:25

I never drink and drive. If I'm going out and will have a pint, then I do not take the car, simple as that.

It's not an holier than thou attitude, it's one of simple common sense. It cost me a lot of time and money to get my license, I do not wish to lose it because that pint I just drank actually had 1.5 units of alcohol rather than the 1 unit I thought it had, no matter how sober I think I feel.

What does make me chuckle is the attitude towards what is "ok" and what is not. The majority of drivers on this board who claim to be "fine" after x amount of units are young drivers. What do the official stats say about drink drivers...

Male drivers under 25 had the highest incidence of failing a breath test after being involved in a road accident in which someone was injured

Yep, sounds about right

Sirrel Squirrel · 12 Sep 2006 at 13:32

Jez said:
I will never understand how people seemingly write off their cars all the time when drink driving. I know of people who have driven under the influence on occasions, sadly i will admit to having done it in the past myself for very short distances, and every time for every person they have driven very carefully and stuck to pretty much all the limits. Infact they have probably been safer than they are normally when pratting about.

Obviously its a very bad thing to do, but for gods sake you would have thought if someone was drunk then they would drive carefully and not risk even more than they have already chosen to.

I've driven behind a few drink drivers, well I assume they are drink drivers because they go slower than the limit, they should not be on the road though, they can't stay in their lane, always go wide on corners and the car tends to weave about a bit, I was behind one and kept my distance, good thing I did too because he slammed on the brakes going past a speed camera even though he was doing less than 30.

Tossers shouldn't be on the road, it's really inconsiderate to other drivers and dangerous.

IT Insider · 12 Sep 2006 at 13:42

Hope he gets 6 months inside!

No excuses - You drink and drive, you deserve a minimum of 6 months of being somebody's "wife" inside!

That'll teach him!

If you have your car, and are planning to drive then dont even have one pint! Simple as that!!!

You should also ask yourself why his "mates" actually let him get in the car!

Pug · 12 Sep 2006 at 13:44

blimey, i wish i was as moralistic as some of the OCUK bunch :rolleyes:

no one will condone driving when drunk, but if i popped into the pub after work with colleagues i would happily have 2 pints of lager in a 90min period, and be safe in the knowledge that if i were stopped i would refuse a breathalyser, be taken to the station for blood sample, by which point there would be no way i'd be approaching the limit.

Common sense here people, lets apply some...

Sirrel Squirrel · 12 Sep 2006 at 13:53

Just had a thought, someone who works for my dad got done for drink driving, he got a 2 year ban and he didn't even crash, so be interesting to see what happens to your mate.

IT Insider · 12 Sep 2006 at 14:02

Pug said:
blimey, i wish i was as moralistic as some of the OCUK bunch

no one will condone driving when drunk, but if i popped into the pub after work with colleagues i would happily have 2 pints of lager in a 90min period, and be safe in the knowledge that if i were stopped i would refuse a breathalyser, be taken to the station for blood sample, by which point there would be no way i'd be approaching the limit.

Common sense here people, lets apply some...

Common sense mate means you dont drink anything! And that sort of attitude you are showing is one of the reason people still do it!
80% of deaths caused by drink driving are actually innocent people. And when you loose a very very good mate to an idiot who thinks popping into the pub after work and sinking a couple of pints "Im alright jack" then kills somebody driving home, then you can come on here and say its all ok!

Drink drivers are the same level as TWOC'ers. They should all be shot!

Jet · 12 Sep 2006 at 14:05

Pug said:
blimey, i wish i was as moralistic as some of the OCUK bunch

no one will condone driving when drunk, but if i popped into the pub after work with colleagues i would happily have 2 pints of lager in a 90min period, and be safe in the knowledge that if i were stopped i would refuse a breathalyser, be taken to the station for blood sample, by which point there would be no way i'd be approaching the limit.

Common sense here people, lets apply some...

By your logic it's ok to steal cars provided you ditch the evidence before the police catch up with you.

What an idiot.

It has nothing to do with the police or getting caught. It's a moral position because you know, or should know, that if you drive with any alcohol in your system you are an increased danger to other people.

You have to laugh at people who say they can drink so many pints and be ok.

Nozzer · 12 Sep 2006 at 14:14

Pug said:
no one will condone driving when drunk, but if i popped into the pub after work with colleagues i would happily have 2 pints of lager in a 90min period, and be safe in the knowledge that if i were stopped i would refuse a breathalyser, be taken to the station for blood sample, by which point there would be no way i'd be approaching the limit.

Do they not apply a retrospective slant to the blood sample?

dirtydog · 12 Sep 2006 at 14:25

Nozzer said:
Do they not apply a retrospective slant to the blood sample?

I would hope not - it would be guesswork surely.

paradigm · 12 Sep 2006 at 14:44

dirtydog said:
I would hope not - it would be guesswork surely.

Not at all, infact they can quite happily work out if you were over the limit.

I will quite happily drink one pint or two bottles and then drive though.

Pug · 12 Sep 2006 at 14:48

i think people are taking my point (which wasnt typed with the time and finesse i would've liked - work pressure) too literally.

they cant apply it retrospectively without calculating your metabolic rate and that would vary day to day depending on what activities you get upto and what you have eaten.

I guess my point, condensed would be:

In a perfect world no one would drink drive, smoke or get obese and would avoid fatty food to avoid heart disease. However it isnt a perfect world so one must use common sense to make informed decisions.

Being biologically educated i know what is sensible and what is reidiculous, and limiting yourself to one, or 2 depending on strength and over a suitable time peroid is sensible. Disagree all you want, but its true (not ideal, but true)

Nathan · 12 Sep 2006 at 14:54

I will drink a max of 2 pints in the pub then drive home. Always have always will. My mate got 3 years for causing death by careless driving when under the influence of alcohol. Hes out now and wished he had never done it. He got 5 but served 3. Hit a car head on with an elderly couple in it late at night, the woman was asleep on the back chair without a seatbelt on

She sadly died of her injuries.

IT Insider · 12 Sep 2006 at 15:05

i drink, I smoke and yes I drive fast - but when I do any of them I do it without harm to others - I dont smoke in front of non-smokers (I actually usually walk away in *** pub and next year Im happy as larry to smoke outside - Im used to it from being in Dublin all the time. I drink as if every drop of Jack Daniels is going to vanish in 10 mins, but I dont drive home, and I drive very very fast on a race track where the conditions are safer for others, and myself!

I think the way you said it originally has made you look very stupid but if it has been worded wrong then I'll let it go.

But, I'll reiterate - There is NO excuse for Drink Driving! If you see a mate wanting to drive after a few drinks, dont let him! Take his keys off him, fight him, do what ever you can to stop him getting into that car! What would you do if it was your mother or father, or children that a drunk killed while driving his car! Yeah, you'd wanna kill him!

Pug · 12 Sep 2006 at 16:05

thanks for not jumping down my throat - nice sign of maturity (not sarcasm

)

I agree wholeheartedly about drunk driving, no way to condone it, but 2 pints of 4.1% lager in 90 minutes isnt drunk driving, wouldnt put me over the limit and wouldnt present a threat to others (that was my point initially).

i even have a breathalyser (bought it as a gadget for when i'm on the beers, car safely at home

) and me and friends have tried to see how high we can get it on a night out... and according to that - to get 2 times over the legal limit is bloody hard, very hard indeed, so when i hear about people being 4 times over the limit i have no sympathy at all for them...

EDIT: should just say, 2 pints in 90 minutes for me, it wouldnt be great for everyone, i agree (my brother would be well on his way for example)

BigDannyO · 12 Sep 2006 at 16:08

Pug said:
...but if i popped into the pub after work with colleagues i would happily have 2 pints of lager in a 90min period, and be safe in the knowledge that if i were stopped i would refuse a breathalyser, be taken to the station for blood sample, by which point there would be no way i'd be approaching the limit.

Common sense here people, lets apply some...

Hmm, cant help but detect the slightest hint of irony in this statement