What do you class as a performance car?

Rotty · 4 May 2006 at 23:57

If we are talking high preformance the sub 4.5 second to 60 , performance sub 6 seconds

obviously this is just one measurement and would include some lardy saloons so there are many other factors

cymatty · 4 May 2006 at 23:58

Rotty said:
If we are talking high preformance the sub 4.5 second to 60 , performance sub 6 seconds

Nah, i would say sub 4.5 ultra high performance sub 6 high performance sub 7.5 performance.

Toryglen-boy · 5 May 2006 at 00:00

Nissan 300ZX

Rotty · 5 May 2006 at 00:00

cymatty said:
Nah, i would say sub 4.5 ultra high performance sub 6 high performance sub 7.5 performance.

you're just introducing new categories to confuse me

cymatty · 5 May 2006 at 00:02

Rotty said:
you're just introducing new categories to confuse me

You always have performance, high performance and ultra performance.

Jonnycoupe · 5 May 2006 at 00:02

Steve said:
FWD cannot put the power down at the high levels that iwould class a performance car to have

Been in a FWD thats seen off a fair few M3s....

Steve · 5 May 2006 at 00:03

what a bout sub 3s like twin blackbird engined caterhams

Mega ultra high performance?

righ I'm off to bed as my brain is geting annoyed with my fingers addiction to this keyboard

[TW]Fox · 5 May 2006 at 00:03

I've decided to make a new category.

Sort of performance.

This is cars like, oooh, 2.0 16v Mondeos

cymatty · 5 May 2006 at 00:04

Steve said:
what a bout sub 3s like twin blackbird engined caterhams

Mega ultra high performance?

No ultra high is the top.

Steve · 5 May 2006 at 00:06

Jonnycoupe said:
Been in a FWD thats seen off a fair few M3s....

bah you know that the lardy godess that is the M3 cannot be beaten by any conventional automobile

Its something to do with he fundimental physics equastion M3>*

anyway I was off to bedskii as I may have another dispointing day of M3 deprevation to endure and I need my energy for that

austinpowers · 5 May 2006 at 00:07

[TW]Fox said:
I've decided to make a new category.

Sort of performance.

This is cars like, oooh, 2.0 16v Mondeos

You're kidding right?

Anything that can leave a puma behind on B-roads, i.e mondy 2ltr, is a perfomance car

andyfield · 5 May 2006 at 00:08

something that can be modified to be a "perfect" track car

Old school escort
Most cosworths
200sx
scooby
evo
BMW M series
911

or just great chassis
MX5
Integra etc

Simon · 5 May 2006 at 00:10

Is a Rover 220 Turbo a performance car? 'Only' Fwd but is a example which IME puts the power down well. At the time of its launch it was one of the few road cars that would do 150mph

As for modding to be good on a track I would rate them highly in that area.

FakeSnake · 5 May 2006 at 00:13

Performance CANNOT be defined by timings alone!

My car is a sub 7.5sec 0-60, so by Fox's definition would be a performance car. I am sorry to say its a Jeep, and although may be fast, is certainly not a Performance Car. Straight line speed is great, pulls like a monster, but show it a corner at speed and it cries.

My Cobra on the otherhand...

[TW]Fox · 5 May 2006 at 00:16

FakeSnake said:
Performance CANNOT be defined by timings alone!

My car is a sub 7.5sec 0-60, so by Fox's definition would be a performance car. I am sorry to say its a Jeep, and although may be fast, is certainly not a Performance Car. Straight line speed is great, pulls like a monster, but show it a corner at speed and it cries.

My Cobra on the otherhand...

But thats exactly my point - your Jeep has a significant amount of power which means that despite its weight, it offers performance. It is a performance car.

Ok it all falls apart when you get to a corner but IMHO it's not about cornering ability.

FakeSnake · 5 May 2006 at 00:19

[TW]Fox said:
But thats exactly my point - your Jeep has a significant amount of power which means that despite its weight, it offers performance. It is a performance car.

Ok it all falls apart when you get to a corner but IMHO it's not about cornering ability.

ok, may have missed the point, or misread it, or too tired...

My Jeep offers ONE aspect of performance, its not a peformance car. My definition of a performance car is one that excels at every aspect of performance, acceleration, handling and braking.

Jonnycoupe · 5 May 2006 at 00:20

andyfield said:
something that can be modified to be a "perfect" track car

Old school escort
Most cosworths
200sx
scooby
evo
BMW M series
911

or just great chassis
MX5
Integra etc

Most the first lot need to be modified to be decent on the track, you have fair more fun with a hot hatches that are rawer and worth less. None of them are perfect trackcars as your are likely to cry if you get them bumped or crash them

Sports car in my book is deffo a 2 seater RWD rag top tho.

thebrasso · 5 May 2006 at 00:21

Aye, as I said a performance car can't be defined by one single aspect of its performance. Its a complete package.

The_Dark_Side · 5 May 2006 at 01:15

Steve said:
Performance cars would be

M series BMWs
AMG Mercs
Scoobys (STIs etc not the non turbos )
Evos
Porsche 911 (maybe not boxter)
Tuned Jap cars Skyline, RX7s etc
RS4
NSX

everyday "sports cars"
Focus RS / ST
FTO
ASTRA VRX
Mondey ST220
MX5
TYPE Rs
S4

you've put the S4 in the wrong catagory.

[TW]Fox · 5 May 2006 at 01:18

The_Dark_Side said:
you've put the S4 in the wrong catagory.

S4 =/ RS4. It's tamer than an M3. Performance wise, it's on a par with a 330i.