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Just watched God's Camp on Channel 4 and cannot believe that the American people are becoming so entrenched in the Dogma of the Church!!.

What ther hell happened to the last 50 years of enlightenment??

Quotes of "Harry Potter is a Devil's conduit" et al, and I thought the Islamic Nation was backward, with their need for Immans to tell them what to believe, and how to think!!:(.

Is there a conspiracy of the "religious nutters" to re-introduce a "you are safe with the Lord" lifestyle?. Does President Bush actually believe in God or have his aides, along with those of the ruling Muslim faith, drawn up lines of engagement for the next 100 years?.

The sooner we eradicate Religion the better in my opinion.......the sowers of bad seed will undoubtately "crucify" robots next.......and of course make them Jewish!!.

FFS, when will this petty "My God is better than yours" vitriole end.


Anyone with a anti-Religion bomb please contact me immediately......I will pay the asking price to end this load of ***** today!!:(

Fully star your swear words

Gilly
 
What? Lightbulb!

The bible-belt in america has always been that bad.

Have to agree though, religion is a bit of a pile of ****.

Science FOR THE WIN!
 
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Just watched God's Camp on Channel 4 and cannot believe that the American people are becoming so entrenched in the Dogma of the Church!!.

What ther hell happened to the last 50 years of enlightenment??

Quotes of "Harry Potter is a Devil's conduit" et al, and I thought the Islamic Nation was backward, with their need for Immans to tell them what to believe, and how to think!!:(.

Is there a conspiracy of the "religious nutters" to re-introduce a "you are safe with the Lord" lifestyle?. Does President Bush actually believe in God or have his aides, along with those of the ruling Muslim faith, drawn up lines of engagement for the next 100 years?.

The sooner we eradicate Religion the better in my opinion.......the sowers of bad seed will undoubtately "crucify" robots next.......and of course make them Jewish!!.

FFS, when will this petty "My God is better than yours" vitriole end.


Anyone with a anti-Religion bomb please contact me immediately......I will pay the asking price to end this load of ***** today!!:(

Fully star your swear words

Gilly

To be honest, your post is nothing short of crazy.
 
Moved this to GD, because... well do I need to explain?


I think you do......this topic deserves a rational debate, which, because of your apparent attitude to "let's not rock the boat", it will not now get!.

References to "popular culture" (ie) Harry Potter as Devil Worship, are beyond comprehension in a civilised world. Given that only a small percentage of this country's indemic people's are still religious, or have leanings in that direction, why should we (the majority) be subjected to obvious examples of (Godmongering) and expect these examples to constitute a "norm".

It is well established that religious teachings, from an early age (indoctrination?), have an adverse effect upon a population(extreme behaviours), and whilst we may expect third world countries to keep their population ignorant to maintain a modicum of control, it is shocking to say the least that America, allegedly the world's leading economy, and a beacon of "Democracy", should allow, and potentially sanction, such backward thinking amongst it's citizens......unless of course, it too, wants to "dumb down" the population for control purposes?.

That in itself is a worrying trend, given that the British population appears to have been subjected to a "dumbing down" process over the last ten years, (lots of examples of young "graduates" who can't even spell correctly) and whether this is a worldwide phenomenon.

It is of course a "fruitbowl" to say educated people have a choice and a voice, but ill educated people tend to stick to the same fruit they are used to......and control of that fruit has long been in the hands of the Church!!:(
 
I just remember the god botherers on Borat :p

Faking "tongues" just looks so stupid. I think instead of doing that every sunday, they should all go get hobbies.

On a largely-related note, there was a programme on C4 or BBC3 about those folks @ godhatesamerica.com, where they believe in god-enforced karma, by basically saying anything bad that happens to someone is a judgement by God for them doing something bad. There was one cretin in particular who was questioned by the host "so if you heard someone got cancer" and he yelled "praise the lord". That's fine, whatever floats their boat, but 2 minor points; They feel compelled to force this belief on everyone they meet especially KIA servicemen/women, where they go and gatecrash the funneral; and one of the women who is in the upper echelons of the religion is a complete hypocrit, coz at one of their road-side shouting matches with plaquards, there was a drive-by drink thrown which hit the little 8year old kid (also holding a sign he didn't understand; he was questioned by the host about it earlier). The mother then went and hugged him and repeatedly said "I'm so sorry" etc, now why wasn't she praising her lord for passing judgement? Obviously her kid had done something bad to warrant this attack.

I like to believe karma works, and thus I try to be a nice guy etc. I dislike religion, purely because they have about as much idea of what is out there as I do. Faith is a load too, which is more to do with fear than anything else, and a "told you so" attitude.

My philosophy to life overrules any need I have for religion or faith, whatever happens, happens, I accept that which I cannot change and work on what I can. It's magic, I never get upset over anything, no use crying over spilt milk etc. I don't fear death, or whatever comes after it, or lackthereof. If someone told me with 100% certainty that after death there's nothing, I just cease to exist, I'd just say "OK", as in, "good...so what?" kinda sense. I'd have the same reaction if they said that heaven existed and everyone was your friend etc etc, and again, the same reaction if they said I would die tomorrow, but there's a chance I could avoid it. Whatever happens, happens. Whatever has happened, has happened.

I never get stressed about anything, like exams, tests, speeches, etc. If I pass, I pass, what next. If I fail, I take it again. If I can only take it once, then I'll do something else. It's just sort of magical.
 
Twit of the day award goes to.....well it's a draw with the OP, gasp


Whilst I'm sure your post has some merit, and is not at all spam or brown-nosing, please be more succint in your rationale. Perhaps you would care to explain why, or how, you came to deem us twits, whilst making no useful comment whatsoever on the content of the original post.

Do you have an opposing view, a different view, any view at all?....if so I would be delighted to hear it.........unless of course you have to talk to someone else first to tell you what to think??!!


This, I am looking forward to;)
 
And without any rational questioning you have come to that conclusion.....I salute your intuition!!:D

It was your post that lacked any rational thought. Read it again and it looks much like the "irrational" mumblings of a religious person which you're so ready to destroy. I was simply pointing out, rationally, what was to be seen.

While I don't necessarily agree with 'fundamental' religious views, it doesn't mean I'll then go and say that all religion is destroyed. Just because some people say that Harry Potter is sinful literature doesn't mean every religious person does. There are plenty of non-religious people going around demanding the deaths of billions - surely that's more worrying?

I'm baffled how you managed to draw a correlation between religion/the Church and 'dumbing down' society. If anything, religion encourages the acquisition of knowledge.

Nevertheless, humans are not rational beings. We're fueled by emotion, brought up on the stuff. No, not by the Church. By our parents. By our own needs. Everything in the world is subjective; it is based on perception. Rational thought is a tool to try and temper those 'irrational' or 'normal' feelings into something deemed acceptable. You claim that the Church 'controls', I say that rational thought is a form of control.
I do not, however, reject rational thought; instead I choose to use it as a tool, not a way of life. That way, I retain my humanity, and can also function within society.

Religion is order. It is law, it is rules, it is guidelines. Without law, without rules, without guidelines, there would be chaos. Arguably one could say that once, that was true - we needed something to set us right, but now, we don't. Perhaps.

Religion, and belief in anything religious, is faith-based. It is choice based. You choose whether you believe. Indeed, it is possible to teach a person to believe - that is taking advantage of a power and responsibility given to that person and that is something which I disagree on - yet that is no cause to wipe it out completely.

You seem to take pride in your rational thought, and your logic - I suggest you apply it here.
 

In which case I feel you failed to recognise the Irony in the post!!.

Our parents (yours and mine perhaps) gave us a rational and methodical doctrine in which to approach the world in order to make sense of it. The programme I watched (did you?) had a nine year old girl "prioritising" whom she thought would be more receptive to God, and celebrating her ability to manipulate that person with her father, who showered praise on her for her "good work"!!:(

Take a cold, hard look at religion, and, if you can, explain to me how it would work if young people were not indoctrinated at an early age.

Would sixteen and seventeen year old (in this country) , with no prior knowledge of religion, suddenly convert en masse through "free choice"?, would they queue up to hear Sunday services and pack out Churches throughout the land?
 
I think you do......this topic deserves a rational debate, which, because of your apparent attitude to "let's not rock the boat", it will not now get!.


Speaker's Corner

Intelligent debate of newsworthy issues.

Your post was a far cry from intelligent and definitely not newsworthy.

I have no idea what you're talking about when you say 'your apparent attitude to "let's not rock the boat"', please explain.
 
Quotes of "Harry Potter is a Devil's conduit" et al,

I thought you were trying to highlight bad things about religion? They've seen right through Harry Potter. ;)

Religion isn't all bad, generalisations of the sort help no one (yeah I'm aware irony++ at this point). Indoctrination, intolerance and extremism are the things that need guarded against whatever and however they are propogated.

Their best years were in the early days of the nation, when the government was run by freethinkers, skeptics and Deists.

Have an apt quote "America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between" - Oscar Wilde.
 
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