What is a good salary in UK at present?

Efour said:
Do any of you parents think your kids are average or dumb as a rock?

It seems everyone has the brightest potential genius kid to have ever lived. :p
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Based on the number of accident forms we've received from the school since my daughter started a few months ago, I'm pretty sure we can rule out a high flying career based on the number of brain cells she must have already had knocked out of her. :cry:
 
Efour said:
Do any of you parents think your kids are average or dumb as a rock?

It seems everyone has the brightest potential genius kid to have ever lived. :p
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My daughter is around B/C level GCSE although it is all numbers now. My son is only 4 years old so cannot really tell. In hindsight I do wish we pushed her more to practice her 11+. More because of the children she would hang out with as she does seem to like the rough crowd. Especially the boys.

She is very talented in other things. She plays Piano at A level and is very good at that for example and she picks things up quickly. She was riding a bike and swimming at 4 years old too but she lacks the drive which she can only realise herself.

You can be "dumb" and do well at GSCE's just through sheer practice and understanding the patterns and what you need to write to get the marks. You can also be intelligent but have a lack of drive and still get good grades.

The perfect person can do both.
 
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adam cool dude said:
My daughter is around B/C level GCSE although it is all numbers now. My son is only 4 years old so cannot really tell. In hindsight I do wish we pushed her more to practice her 11+. More because of the children she would hang out with as she does seem to like the rough crowd. Especially the boys.

She is very talented in other things. She plays Piano at A level and is very good at that for example and she picks things up quickly. She was riding a bike and swimming at 4 years old too but she lacks the drive which she can only realise herself.

You can be "dumb" and do well at GSCE's just through sheer practice and understanding the patterns and what you need to write to get the marks. You can also be intelligent but have a lack of drive and still get good grades.

The perfect person can do both.
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I suffer from this. I'm quite intelligent in a pure sense, but I don't have any drive. Especially not for career/self study.

Somehow I had it at A level and proceeded to care less and less as time went on. You can absolutely ride on this at school (at least when I was at school). It's what's got me by.

That was (is?) the problem with school. You can do well. At school and poorly at work though sheer intelligence (I strongly remember figuring out all I needed to do was learn the syllabus) or that I only needed 60pc in year 1 at uni. I never went for the first because 2:1 was plenty to leave uni with.

School rewarded you for this thinking. But if you're a people person, or try hard all the time but aren't so academic you might not do as well, but it's far more important in work. Also very practical people don't do so well at school. But there are so many practical jobs. And they are often better careers.

That's probably my biggest issue. School really should do better rewarding for practical skills. If it did maybe I'd be in a job I liked now rather than one I can do.

I was pushed to do academic stuff because I could do it. I'm hindsight I should have done practical stuff. An apprenticeship etc.

Maybe it's much better now. But when I was at school academic excellence was the thing you went for. Turns out.. Much less useful in most jobs! :D
 
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VincentHanna said:
How does money come up? Not that I was a Casanova but I don't ever recall talking about earnings (mine or theirs) on any dates I had back when I was single.
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It doesn't but if a guy is 25 plus years old and is still working an minimum wage job. Then women would see that as an red-flag for their future earning potential.

ivrytwr3 said:
My dad worked very long hours and was never around and mum never took an interest in my schooling - which is probably why i ended up at the local comp and ****** up my GCSEs - not realising the importance of an education. Once i did realise, i redid my education gaining GCSEs and a Degree and have since helped the kids where i can as to not repeat the viscous circle.
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Education is important BUT its needs to be the right education. Too many people from generation (I'm 39) who have useless degrees doing jobs they could have done without the degree. Waste of time and waste of money, which doesn't make them so clever after all.
 
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malachi said:
It doesn't but if a guy is 25 plus years old and is still working an minimum wage job. Then women would see that as an red-flag for their future earning potential.



Education is important BUT its needs to be the right education. Too many people from generation (I'm 39) who have useless degrees doing jobs they could have done without the degree. Waste of time and waste of money, which doesn't make them so clever after all.
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Totally agree. My degree was a total waste of time and money. Glad I had fun at uni. As that's all I got from it.
 
413x said:
Totally agree. My degree was a total waste of time and money. Glad I had fun at uni. As that's all I got from it.
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I didn't got to uni but a lot of my friends did. When they asked at the time why, I said there was no point in me going after looking into it. I'm better off getting a job, earning and starting from there. Their response was "Nah, you should go to uni just for the experience" :confused: I thought you was going to get an decent education, not pee around for 4 to 5 years.
 
malachi said:
I didn't got to uni but a lot of my friends did. When they asked at the time why, I said there was no point in me going after looking into it. I'm better off getting a job, earning and starting from there. Their response was "Nah, you should go to uni just for the experience" :confused: I thought you was going to get an decent education, not pee around for 4 to 5 years.
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Its a shame the default is go to uni straight out of school without knowing what real jobs are like.
If I had known what working in science actually was like I'd have never done what I did.

Back then it was.. You're academic? You should go to uni.

I'd probably be 10 years ahead and nearly. Mortgage free now if I hadn't gone to uni.
That's the kicker.
 
malachi said:
It doesn't but if a guy is 25 plus years old and is still working an minimum wage job. Then women would see that as an red-flag for their future earning potential.
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Just like a guy would see a woman at 25 who's had a high number of sexual partners as a red flag? Guys are allowed to to have red flags like that, right? Or are we being unreasonable? :p :cry:
 
Richie said:
Just like a guy would see a woman at 25 who's had a high number of sexual partners as a red flag? Guys are allowed to to have red flags like that, right? Or are we being unreasonable? :p :cry:
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Far more easier for women to hide (or not disclose) their sexual past, compared to a man working an minimum wage job.

And lets be honest, most men would overlook that even if they did know :D
 
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I'd say 40k+ up North. But also depends on single/couple - there's a fair saving when income is split, 2x£30k is a good few hundred a month better off than 1x£60k, and that's before taking into account shared bills.

I've noticed a pervasive attitude that 30k, for example, is still a lot of money, not even just among older people who haven't had reason to keep track of salaries over the years. In reality wage growth has been suppressed for a long time and lots of things are massively more expensive. I'm not quite sure where this comes from, but suspect some combination of crabs-in-a-bucket and jealousy of success/wealth that seems fairly prevalent in the UK.
 
I suppose a good salary equates to how easy the job is to get, and how quickly the money comes in (starting salary vs a few years after starting).

It amazes me that the job I did for 22 years is under-subscribed and recruitment struggles to get people to apply... I was in the RAF as a WSOp, a radar operator primarily plus a few other jobs, essentially playing computer games while flying planes. a 20 year old with a few half-decent qualifications can be on 30k+ rising to 40k+ after a few years with a ceiling of around 70k.
 
malachi said:
Far more easier for women to hide (or not disclose) their sexual past, compared to a man working a minimum wage job.
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If I’m brutally honest, I wouldn’t date a woman who was on minimum wage. I’m sure there’s exceptions but it shows a lack of independence and ambition.
 
jeffk said:
If I’m brutally honest, I wouldn’t date a woman who was on minimum wage. I’m sure there’s exceptions but it shows a lack of independence and ambition.
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Personally I dont really care how much a woman earns or works however, if they are not working, I expect the home to be kept clean/tidy and dinner on the table when I get home (unless, of course they are volunteering/full time carer etc)

Come at me GD for being sexist :p
 
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jeffk said:
If I’m brutally honest, I wouldn’t date a woman who was on minimum wage. I’m sure there’s exceptions but it shows a lack of independence and ambition.
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If they are 21 years old. I wouldn't care :D

But on a serious note, depending on age it does show lack of independence and ambition. You wouldn't find an 18 year old on 35k a year, you would expect them to be on minimum wage if they are not a student full time.
 
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jeffk said:
If I’m brutally honest, I wouldn’t date a woman who was on minimum wage. I’m sure there’s exceptions but it shows a lack of independence and ambition.
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If she was 25, hot, fun and looking for career progress... I would.

If she was 35, in a dead end job, looking for a sperm donar... I wouldn't.
 
413x said:
If she was 35, in a dead end job, looking for a sperm donar... I wouldn't.
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Or no job either. Because they would be a drain on your resources.

Constantly you are leveling up in life, while you are dragging them along with you. Seen it happen too many times from both genders.
 
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