What is a good salary in UK at present?

[ivrytwr3]

Grammer schools are mostly populated by wealthy middle class kids that have been tutored for 11+ test since age 7. The local comprehensive then ends up with the poorest and least able kids gets terrible results and no funding

Both my kids went to Grammar schools and we are certainly not wealthy! We just took the time to educate and nurture them when they were younger.

My dad worked very long hours and was never around and mum never took an interest in my schooling - which is probably why i ended up at the local comp and ****** up my GCSEs - not realising the importance of an education. Once i did realise, i redid my education gaining GCSEs and a Degree and have since helped the kids where i can as to not repeat the viscous circle.

One is doing well in Uni atm and the other, well.............she has discovered boys and a little waitress job has given her money in her pocket. We'll see what happens with her!!

 

[Nitefly]

What kind of person is happy with a partner who's prime motivation is their salary? It doesn't sound like a solid basis for a fruitful relationship.

Mmm yes and no. It’s the same as a person’s prime motivation being physical attraction - it’s unlikely / rare to be a determining factor but it may have some input, even if only subconsciously.

Wealth (or ‘having resources’) is understandably something which is attractive for woman - considering attraction is something which is generic and wealth (and resources) generally brings about success for children.

Similarly, men typically want sexy woman because it should lead to sexy adult offspring which are in turn attractive (I had to carefully word that one ).

 

[413x]

Part of me believes that this could be a true ‘ideal fantasy’ desire, much like I imagine men may want their women to ideally be size 6.

^ it’s very unlikely anyone would shun a relationship for not meeting this criteria, but it’s a nice to have!

Size 8 please.

 

[413x]

What kind of person is happy with a partner who's prime motivation is their salary? It doesn't sound like a solid basis for a fruitful relationship.

I'd rather not be massively out of sync salary wise. But as long as they aren't a free loader/lazy salary isn't that important

 

[Diagro]

Errrmm I don't think that's totally fair

I agree with him though. I've taught in both types of schools. heh

 

[dlockers]

I've been thinking about this a lot though, if you mean 50 miles each way that's an extra 2 hours a day in commuting, which is 1000 a month, so over the year it's essentially costing you 20k of your time to get to work.

I worked two jobs at the time (5 days/week in the place then weekend job). I definitely didn't "make" any money but it put me in a position where over ~7 years I 10x'ed my earnings. It was also a while back so fuel wasn't that expensive. I had a C180 coupe at the time (y).

 

[Richie]

I've been thinking about this a lot though, if you mean 50 miles each way that's an extra 2 hours a day in commuting, which is 1000 a month, so over the year it's essentially costing you 20k of your time to get to work.

Run me through your maths here?

 

[jaybee]

If you believe some media then if your a man and want to attract a woman you need to be on at least 100K a year.

If you want a gold digger yeah.
Call me old fashioned but I believe in a thing called love. *Looks up the darkness on spotify

 

[jaybee]

He means

Run me through your maths here?

He means as a percentage of salary Vs commute time I think. I get the concept. Not the maths lol

 

[VincentHanna]

How does money come up? Not that I was a Casanova but I don't ever recall talking about earnings (mine or theirs) on any dates I had back when I was single.

 

[adam cool dude]

Both my kids went to Grammar schools and we are certainly not wealthy! We just took the time to educate and nurture them when they were younger.

My dad worked very long hours and was never around and mum never took an interest in my schooling - which is probably why i ended up at the local comp and ****** up my GCSEs - not realising the importance of an education. Once i did realise, i redid my education gaining GCSEs and a Degree and have since helped the kids where i can as to not repeat the viscous circle.

One is doing well in Uni atm and the other, well.............she has discovered boys and a little waitress job has given her money in her pocket. We'll see what happens with her!!

Lincolnshire is an odd county in that regard because we have plenty of grammar and high schools for normal people but the gulf between the grammar and "normal" school is huge. We have a fantastic high school but is limited to only 600 places and the normal school is 1600+. My daughter missed out just on high school with her 11+. I don't think we pushed it enough as I wanted her to get in on her own merit rather than revise 24/7 get in then struggle once she got there. By comparison if she was a boy she would have gotten in a lot easier as the pass mark was a lot lower for the grammar school.

She is in the top sets at her current school and will be doing her GCSE's in the summer but she has had to have a lot of extra tuition from myself as the school is quite poor and was absolutely terrible during Covid.

I went to a decent state school (at the time) and a few of my primary friends went to the grammar school down the road yet when it comes to GSCE's it was myself that got A's in Maths and Science and they were getting B's and C's. We had one girl who was in the papers and got a*'s in everything and went to Cambridge. Look at Prince Harry as an example of someone who had the best education money could buy but ended up with below average grades.

I do agree that Grammar/High schools do give you an edge but it isn't the be all and end all in life. I am sure plenty of people on here have a friends network from school on social media and the people that "made it" financially in life are the ones you least expected.

 

[413x]

How does money come up? Not that I was a Casanova but I don't ever recall talking about earnings (mine or theirs) on any dates I had back when I was single.

I expect if I turned up for a date in my Peugeot 207 vs a audi vs a nice new audi or merc I'd get different reposnses from some.

Granted this is a good way to filter the dross. But aside from that, it's never come up.

OK maybe going for a maccies drive through and asking to go halves might do it too.


But that could also be another filter!

 

[m4rmite]

I expect if I turned up for a date in my Peugeot 207 vs a audi vs a nice new audi or merc I'd get different reposnses from some.

Granted this is a good way to filter the dross. But aside from that, it's never come up.

OK maybe going for a maccies drive through and asking to go halves might do it too.


But that could also be another filter!

If they like eating a macdonalds they don't deserve dating

 

[413x]

If they like eating a macdonalds they don't deserve dating

I dunno. I always look forward to a maccy D on a long drive.
Then I have it..
And regret it.


Someone in the local Facebook group accidentally shamed someone because
"to whoever lives at number 5 can you please sort your delivery driver out, he keeps delivering maccy ds to us at lunch"

Who orders delivery maccy D for lunch? Eww!

 

[theone8181]

Run me through your maths here?

20 quid an hour so 40 quid a day. That's a grand a month, then if you look at pre tax (with a dash of man maths) it's 20k a year. My free time is worth a lot to me. That's not factoring in car costs.

 

[Richie]

20 quid an hour so 40 quid a day. That's a grand a month, then if you look at pre tax (with a dash of man maths) it's 20k a year. My free time is worth a lot to me. That's not factoring in car costs.

With "dashes" like that - you can be on pouring duty for my drinks

 

[thebandit]

My son goes to the local grammer shcool, it is in the top ten in the country and has no catchment so the bun fight for places was fierce. I agree with the settiment of some of the previous posts, in my experience getting your child in became an arms race of tutoring, which obviously favours those who can afford it. I know some of his friends locally (no joke) were tutored weekly for two years ahead and 5 days a week through the summer holiday preceeding the 11+ exam. I'd like to say that naturally bright kids could still gain places, but in areas where this level of tutoring is common I think it would be quite hard for them when pitted against the children drilled and honed to that level to pass the entrance exam. Personally we did both, he had a tutor once a week for a year but we also spent a lot of our own time with him. For what its worth, I was appalled at the way some people were carrying on (and how sneaky they were about how much they were doing ) trouble is you end up having to follow the pack or your child, no matter how bright, is at a massive disavantage.

I do think there is a general apathy amongst the masses to push children to acheive their best in education. As a "hands up" gross generalisation based on a straw pole of the the people I know, there is a definate bias of parents who have done well to also impose the importance of a good education on their children. My sons year was especially notable for this.

 

[Efour]

Do any of you parents think your kids are average or dumb as a rock?

It seems everyone has the brightest potential genius kid to have ever lived.

 

[theone8181]

With "dashes" like that - you can be on pouring duty for my drinks

Imo it's close(ish), I always put a value on my time. My dad doesn't, and he'd rather drive an hour each way to IKEA, rather than pay the delivery charge (that trip involved bring a wardrobe back in an A3, with the boot open as it was too long ). I'm just trying to make a point of that a higher paying job isn't always higher paying when you factor in commute time. I've also seen a few delivery jobs that state 1k a week (which is pretty good), then day something stupid like a 50 hour week (which obviously makes it a bit poor). Hourly rate is a very useful metric, mine wage is not as high as others on here, but we end up standing around talking for quite a lot so it's not too bad.

 

[Richie]

Imo it's close(ish), I always put a value on my time. My dad doesn't, and he'd rather drive an hour each way to IKEA, rather than pay the delivery charge (that trip involved bring a wardrobe back in an A3, with the boot open as it was too long ). I'm just trying to make a point of that a higher paying job isn't always higher paying when you factor in commute time. I've also seen a few delivery jobs that state 1k a week (which is pretty good), then day something stupid like a 50 hour week (which obviously makes it a bit poor). Hourly rate is a very useful metric, mine wage is not as high as others on here, but we end up standing around talking for quite a lot so it's not too bad.

I know, I was just being a smart ass .

Your IKEA example - you should ask @danlightbulb how he got on with this exact example and using delivery rathe than collecting. An anecdotal example but also one of the possible reasons why your dad prefers to collect even if logistically harder.