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We should respect them in context of the time and place they lived in.
What is white privilege?
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We should respect them in context of the time and place they lived in.
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Edward Colston, the statue toppled and chucked in the river, was a prominent slave trader. Seems fairly legit he should not be celebrated.
As far as I know Mercedes no longer use slaves or have anything to do with slaves and I expect they dont celebrate the fact they used slaves.
Just a weak comparison.
As far as I know Mercedes no longer use slaves or have anything to do with slaves and I expect they dont celebrate the fact they used slaves.
Just a weak comparison.
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How can we judge historical figures based on modern standards?
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No the difference is that Lewis hamilton is preaching to us all, yet he drives for and takes a paycheck from mercedes without ever mentioning their past.
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He doesn't need to mention it because its irrelevant to any sensible person not trying to make spurious comparisons to denigrate the BLM movement. There are plenty of legit reasons to **** off BLM.
Yet his statue isn't celebrating the fact he was a slave trader either. It's because of the good things he did for the city.
People see what they want to see, just apply the same standards to everyone, that's all.
And that's a really crap reason. There are entire family lines who exist purely because the NAZIs raped and pillaged. You want to go after them too?
We shouldn't respect any historic figures who dealt in the slave trade, I agree with that. It's shameful. But, we also shouldn't go after people who had nothing at all to do with the actions taken by their relatives generations ago. And there's even less logic in going after a company for those reasons.
WHAT?!
WHAT???
Will you be demanding any reference to Mohammed is removed from Islam?
He was also an exceptional philanthropist.
Muhammad, prophet of Islam, led a campaign of enslavement across the Middle East, yet he is celebrated and revered.
Seems fairly legit he shouldn't be celebrated too, yes?
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Are you aware of any statues to Muhammad in the UK?
How can anybody keep a straight face suggesting a person who literally profited on human misery was somehow a philanthropist?
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I'm aware of many buildings where his teachings are held up as gospel and that by saying anything negative about him will be seen as racist.
See the South Park about him that they tried to ban for example.
Try erecting one, just let me be there when you do.
I wasn't referring to any statues of Muhammad, I commented on the fact that he is celebrated and revered despite profiting very handsomely from slavery.
I remember some cartoons of Muhammad that were published - that didn't go down too well.
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I can't say that I am a fan of ANY religious belief; I am definitely not in favour of anyone enforcing their beliefs on others.
However, I fail to see how deranged religious fundamentalism of any sort can be seen to justify racism or a belief in white privilege.
I know - the thought of celebrating someone who literally profited from slavery is pretty appalling isn't it?
"But it was different back then...."....
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I know - the thought of celebrating someone who literally profited from slavery is pretty appalling isn't it?
"But it was different back then...."....
Like mercedes then? Or not like Mercedes?
Easily. He spent the money he earned on charitable causes.
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