What is 'woke' and why do we use it?

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There are Social media guidelines though, he's agreed to stick to them and they're under review on how they apply to freelancers.
Well there you go then; if BBC start enforcing it within contracts then Lineker and co will have to stick to it.

I think one issue actually is there's no good reason for Gary Lineker to be a freelancer for the BBC, he's doing a regular job for them, he's not appearing every so often to give his opinion, why isn't he contracted to the BBC? Seems like he avoided paying a lot of tax on the basis of being a freelancer, but I'm sure that isn't a reason.
No different to other talent, they have multiple jobs/clients.
And as @VincentHanna points out, he seems to pay his fair share in tax given he has gone down the partnership route rather than the usual LTD.
 
Gary Lineker fan club - at least Gary lives in England - not like formula one contingent Coulthard, Lewis, ... - part time british citizens.

some tv viewers have a brain cell and can evaluate the veracity of what he says during his punditting, same as for the politicians Brexit punditting, or the narrative netflix has in the Crown.
 
Was originally a positive thing, after all who wouldn't want to be aware of social justice issues? More recently it has become shorthand for activists who have a toxic, entirely monochrome view of issues.
 
Although I mostly agree, it depends on what the problem is. If the problem is that black women are disproportionately more likely to die during childbirth, the solution invariably needs to address a particular group of people (black women). We can't just ignore or pretend those groups don't exist.


More generally, social justice by definition will mean supporting those that suffer injustice, and that invariably tends to be minorities within the specific social environment. Woke applies equally tp black, white, christian, muslim, poor, rich, straight, gay etc., but based on the injustices and discriminations, some groups will be more affected than others and it will all change on depending on your environment
 
But she got suspended, so 'the left' aren't allowing her to do that are they?


She got suspended because Starmer has to be seen to be dealing with anti semitism, but for her to even write the letter in her position as a senior leftie suggests that the contents are fully aligned with leftie beliefs.
 
Oh you think "the left" all speak with one voice? like they are the Borg or something.

What's a "senior leftie" anyway? You mean that she's old or that all the other lefties have somehow elevated her in to the powerful position of....MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington.
 
Oh you think "the left" all speak with one voice? like they are the Borg or something.

What's a "senior leftie" anyway? You mean that she's old or that all the other lefties have somehow elevated her in to the powerful position of....MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington.

Don't you know, the left and right are just one giant hive mind. No individual thought allowed.
 
How I see it…

‘Woke’ is supposed to mean ‘aware / conscious of long-standing social injustice’. As in, you have ‘woken up’ to what is going on.

^By itself, there is nothing remotely objectionable to simply being aware of social injustice.

It’s since been hijacked, although by whom I’m still not sure.

Some persons with fairly extreme and intolerant views, who may be described as ‘the far left’ by some, have used the word ‘woke’ to describe themselves. I’m honestly not sure if many people like this exist, or it’s largely just an imaginary ‘click-bait’ internet nonsense.

In return, many persons associate ‘woke’ with intolerant and anti-social behaviour. This is probably what it’s most associated with now, this negative and unwelcome type of sensitive person (who again, I suspect exists in very limited numbers outside of clickbait / twitter).

Then, many persons with fairly extreme and intolerant views, who may be described as ‘the far right’ by some, now unreasonably dismiss anything with any fair mindfulness towards social inequality as ‘woke’ in a negative sense.

In summary…

- Being mindful of social injustice is not inherently bad.

- Annoying people with extremist far left views should be considered as such and appreciated to be a very small subset of all persons, warranting little attention.

- Brittle people need to stop dismissing everything they don’t like as being ‘woke’.

I’ll add that anyone that uses the word ‘left’ or ‘right’ in a negative sense just appears basic as. Your political affiliations don’t have to be as dumb as always ‘supporting / opposing a side’, you know :p
 
It's the newest tool that the billionaires are using to get the plebs/working class to fight amongst ourselves to distract us from being perpetually screwed over. Nothing more, nothing less, and it works every time. This thread is evidence of that, and everyone arguing for or against "woke"ism is playing right into their hands.
 
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Oh so she now represents the left?

Complaining about Israeli apartheid and Zionism isn't racism. It's humanitarianism.
 
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Lets be honest, it's already heavily infiltrated every organisation, institution universities, corporations, you name it... But if any of the individuals in high profile positions accidentally say the quiet part out loud, the overwhelming reaction from the public is negative... Just look at the reaction the Diane Abbots comments...

Starmer is desperately trying to hide the fact that most of the Labour party support ideology like CRT, including gender and race theory, but it's a bit like trying to hide an elephant under a rug at this stage.
 
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