What RAM are you getting/bought for Ryzen
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Same settings 4000% plus. £600 CL17
Nice DDRs shame they not came out when i picked up 3766 Dark Pros. Thing is 3600 cl18 is still slower than super tight 3333mhzcl 14
And slower than 3200cl12 but that needs some srs volts. Not to mention going pass 3466 usually tends to cut down maximum cpu stable OC.How Low on timings on 3200/3333 can Your kits go ??
btw i had somewhere 3672mhz cl16 1000% pass on my system still slower than 3333
Damn id had a play with Your kit my opc been runing memtests 24/7 since start of June when i gotten 3766 kit
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Originally Posted by The Stilt 
Half of the 3DMark Sky Diver Combined Test score comes from the physics score. The physics engine used in 3DMark is Bullet, which is extremely sensitive to latency.
3200MHz 14-14-14-75-350ns-BGSE = 116.85fps
3200MHz 14-14-14-75-350ns-BGSD = 119.51fps
3520MHz 14-14-14-56-177ns-BGSD = 125.07fps
3200MHz 12-12-12-54-140ns-BGSD = 127.07fps
These are with R7 clocked at 3.575GHz.
Those are five run averages, since the score varies slightly between the runs.
3DMark SD CT isn't the best benchmark to evaluate the real world memory performance, however it is quite decent and can be run very quickly.
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Originally Posted by The Stilt
Higher DFICLK itself doesn't improve the performance. Increasing the DFICLK (by increasing the MEMCLK) only helps if the DFI is the bottle neck.
1600MHz DFICLK (i.e. 3200MHz MEMCLK) is sufficient for > R7 1800X and the returns from higher speeds are diminishing. At higher CPU speeds (which are unachievable on current gen. Ryzen CPUs) the required DFICLK for optimal performance will increase as well.
https://m.imgur.com/68n8LJN
Half of the 3DMark Sky Diver Combined Test score comes from the physics score. The physics engine used in 3DMark is Bullet, which is extremely sensitive to latency.
3200MHz 14-14-14-75-350ns-BGSE = 116.85fps
3200MHz 14-14-14-75-350ns-BGSD = 119.51fps
3520MHz 14-14-14-56-177ns-BGSD = 125.07fps
3200MHz 12-12-12-54-140ns-BGSD = 127.07fps
These are with R7 clocked at 3.575GHz.
Those are five run averages, since the score varies slightly between the runs.
3DMark SD CT isn't the best benchmark to evaluate the real world memory performance, however it is quite decent and can be run very quickly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
Higher DFICLK itself doesn't improve the performance. Increasing the DFICLK (by increasing the MEMCLK) only helps if the DFI is the bottle neck.
1600MHz DFICLK (i.e. 3200MHz MEMCLK) is sufficient for > R7 1800X and the returns from higher speeds are diminishing. At higher CPU speeds (which are unachievable on current gen. Ryzen CPUs) the required DFICLK for optimal performance will increase as well.
https://m.imgur.com/68n8LJN
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8 pack Could You test Your kit at those settings ??
3466mhz
DRAM CAS# Latency [14]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Read Delay [14]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Write Delay [14]
DRAM RAS# PRE Time [14]
DRAM RAS# ACT Time [28]
Trc_SM [54]
TrrdS_SM [6]
TrrdL_SM [9]
Tfaw_SM [36]
TwtrS_SM [4]
TwtrL_SM [12]
Twr_SM [12]
Trcpage_SM [Auto]
TrdrdScl_SM [2]
TwrwrScl_SM [2]
Trfc_SM [333]
Trfc2_SM [Auto]
Trfc4_SM [Auto]
Tcwl_SM [14]
Trtp_SM [8]
Trdwr_SM [6]
Twrrd_SM [3]
TwrwrSc_SM [1]
TwrwrSd_SM [7]
TwrwrDd_SM [7]
TrdrdSc_SM [1]
TrdrdSd_SM [5]
TrdrdDd_SM [5]
Tcke_SM [6]
ProcODT_SM [60 ohm]
Cmd2T [1T]
Gear Down Mode [Disabled]
AMD CBS > UMC Common Options > DDR Memory Mapping > BankGroupSwap [Disabled] (Note: As kit was 1 DPC SR)
VBOOT/VDIMM: 1.365V
This is Fastest option for ryzen on 1.0.0.6a atm without cutting down max CPU OC by more than 25mhz
Thats fastest option we found so far.
Very interested love messing around with memory timings hhahahha
3466mhz
DRAM CAS# Latency [14]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Read Delay [14]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Write Delay [14]
DRAM RAS# PRE Time [14]
DRAM RAS# ACT Time [28]
Trc_SM [54]
TrrdS_SM [6]
TrrdL_SM [9]
Tfaw_SM [36]
TwtrS_SM [4]
TwtrL_SM [12]
Twr_SM [12]
Trcpage_SM [Auto]
TrdrdScl_SM [2]
TwrwrScl_SM [2]
Trfc_SM [333]
Trfc2_SM [Auto]
Trfc4_SM [Auto]
Tcwl_SM [14]
Trtp_SM [8]
Trdwr_SM [6]
Twrrd_SM [3]
TwrwrSc_SM [1]
TwrwrSd_SM [7]
TwrwrDd_SM [7]
TrdrdSc_SM [1]
TrdrdSd_SM [5]
TrdrdDd_SM [5]
Tcke_SM [6]
ProcODT_SM [60 ohm]
Cmd2T [1T]
Gear Down Mode [Disabled]
AMD CBS > UMC Common Options > DDR Memory Mapping > BankGroupSwap [Disabled] (Note: As kit was 1 DPC SR)
VBOOT/VDIMM: 1.365V
This is Fastest option for ryzen on 1.0.0.6a atm without cutting down max CPU OC by more than 25mhz
Thats fastest option we found so far. Very interested
love messing around with memory timings hhahahha
It was noted on OC.NET that BGS showed reductions of up to 10% in benchmarks but improved overall performance, was posted by The Stilt.
Enabled or disabled? I've run a bunch of stuff through CPUZ, Cinebench, Realbench, Firestrike, Timespy and Super Position. Every single one showed pretty significant gains. Surely the likes of FS, TS and SP are representative or actual gaming performance?
Interesting. Well as far as 'not needed if only running two dimms', i'm seeing fairly dramatic improvements from enabling compared to disabling. Do you have any suggestions for tests I can run that'll be more representative of 'overall performance increase' than the benches I've been using?
I will see if I can find the post from Stilt on OC.NET.
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what im using isssss IBT Very High x10 pass You can see changes like 5mhz more on cpu or changing timings ect. Also Super Pi is always good.
gupsterg doing fantastic job with filtering our main topic and keeping it Tidy :
http://www.overclock.net/t/1625015/ryzen-essential-info-with-link-to-owners-info-db/0_50
THERE IS EVERYTHING THERE EEEVVEEERRRYYYTTTHHHINNGG
gupsterg doing fantastic job with filtering our main topic and keeping it Tidy :
http://www.overclock.net/t/1625015/ryzen-essential-info-with-link-to-owners-info-db/0_50
THERE IS EVERYTHING THERE EEEVVEEERRRYYYTTTHHHINNGG
http://www.overclock.net/t/1625015/ryzen-essential-info-with-link-to-owners-info-db/0_50
THERE IS EVERYTHING THERE EEEVVEEERRRYYYTTTHHHINNGG
Great thread, for those on CH6 here is the dedicated thread for OC, its quite large now
http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread
Here are some of The Stilts comments on BGS, I am running single rank memory so disabled it
Have you done any testing for yourself though? As I also have single rank memory, but testing is clearly showing a decent improvement when enabled.
As per Stilts comments I did see a slight decrease in bandwidth in AIDA64 but machine has been stable and performing well so left it disabled.
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I cant disable bank group swap on my board. 
Would be interested to see test results if you ever have time.
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I have Corsair 3200Mhz, Samsung E-die. Would they run at full speed?
What speed would i likely to reach?
What speed would i likely to reach?
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Sorry guys, I know this is a Overclocking forum, but could anyone suggest a pair of 8GB DDR4 (16gb total) for a Ryzen 1600 with a B350M Mortar Artctic MSI motherboard that works out of the box without needing to overclock ? I just really want the fastest compatible memory, I am not in to overclocking. I keep hearing conflicting things that 2400 is best but then some saying they have 3200 and so on, arrgggh, brain hurts. Youtube only seems to deal in overclocking. My PC would be for video encoding so just need something I can shove on the M/B and it works. I don't even understand why the letters "OC" are in brackets on the MSI website beside the compatible memory, does this mean to reach that speed it needs to be overclocked or does that mean it is OC'd out of the box. I am new to Ryzen and building my own stuff. Looking to spend around £130. Thanks all !!