What to do with teenagers?

badbob said:
That's only because of a certain neighbour, so the goverment needs people trained up in case of a war.
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Even if that is the reason behind it, Greeks I've known in the past have not had anything bad to say about their term of national service. If anything they've said it helped them grow into mature, well-adjusted and disciplined individuals.
 
What type of society uses a low-level sonic weapon on its children?
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A society that's fed up of anti-social behaviour from teenagers whos parents seem unable to cope with them due to groups like Liberty and lack of local policing especially at night? It's no wonder that the UK is becoming a CCTV-society when people want some kind of protection that isn't being provided.
 
to be fair this device can affect pretty much any1 up and over the age of 25. all it does is emit a high frequency sound. this mean that babies small children and even some younger adults have to put up with it as well. i dont like the idea of them really. National service no way i refuse out right to fire a gun. yes you get people more disciplined but your also saying that violence is ok. longer education maybe the way to go but if say 2 subjects are compulsory at A level means that people can fit a part time job around there school time.
 
Spend_day said:
National service no way i refuse out right to fire a gun. yes you get people more disciplined but your also saying that violence is ok.
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National service does not mean violence is ok or that you have to become a trigger-happy madman.

There are literally hundreds, if not tens of hundreds of non-combat roles in the military which cover pretty much everything from cooking to managing communications. I wish people wouldn't have knee-jerk reactions like this.

Most people who do national service will probably never even see a theatre of war unless they stay on.
 
we have one of these at college... works a treat and has stopped the vandilism.

i think national service would indeed sort out a lot of issues this country is facing ATM. finally, some discipline could be put into the youth of today, something very badly needed as the education system and their chav-esk parents are constantly failing to apply.
 
im under 25, see this as a good thing, yea its a bit shocking because it will annoy us innocent people too, but something does need to be done about teens that hover around outside shops and intimidate people. Up at tesco express near my parents its a joke, usually 20-30 school kids hovering about, and then you'v got the older chavs 'godfathers', if it disbands them away from places they shouldnt be/shouldnt loiter around then its fair.
Could also be used to drive them away from drinking hotspots making policing much easier.

Someone said more police, urm, you pay them then, because people dont want higher taxes
 
Why not try and come up with a way of tackling the route of the problem? IMO that's where these type of people live, how their parents bring them up etc... rather than scapegoating that national service would solve all problems and put discipline. If it's anything like the army then I think it would create even more problems, chavs in a position of power?
Would you also want to be stuck with a load of ****'s for 2 more years after school?
 
If forced national service existed I would refuse, even if they dragged me into the barracks I'll refuse orders and jump over the fence.

Supposed to live in a democracy, and forced national service isn't part of that deal.
 
$loth said:
Why not try and come up with a way of tackling the route of the problem? IMO that's where these type of people live, how their parents bring them up etc... rather than scapegoating that national service would solve all problems and put discipline. If it's anything like the army then I think it would create even more problems, chavs in a position of power?
Would you also want to be stuck with a load of ****'s for 2 more years after school?
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Because that takes a generation and a bit, and this soultion is solved with throwing money at the problem and shuffling the issue else where.
 
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