What watch do you wear?

lsg1r said:
I didn't really mean 'beater' in respect to an every day wear watch, not sure any normal person would see a 3K watch as a beater lol. It was more along the lines of one you'd wear going out or (clean) work etc without having to baby it quite so much.
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I would definitely wear a 3k watch as a daily driver at work and at play and I know other people that do. I wore my Tudor Pelagos every day for the last couple of Summers and that involved a lot of arsing around. 3k watches are not exactly priceless family heirlooms, they are to be worn and enjoyed. :)
 
lsg1r said:
I didn't really mean 'beater' in respect to an every day wear watch, not sure any normal person would see a 3K watch as a beater lol. It was more along the lines of one you'd wear going out or (clean) work etc without having to baby it quite so much.
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Yeah it is definitely in that category. Wore mine to soft play the other day. How my life has changed... :o

Richdog said:
I would definitely wear a 3k watch as a daily driver at work and at play and I know other people that do. I wore my Tudor Pelagos every day for the last couple of Summers and that involved a lot of arsing around. 3k watches are not exactly priceless family heirlooms, they are to be worn and enjoyed. :)
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I think I'm too influenced by the automotive world where beater can mean a 90s Civic used as a dog van or your wifes 2019 Golf hatchback :p. Daily driver probably a better word to describe it!
 
dLockers said:
Yeah it is definitely in that category. Wore mine to soft play the other day. How my life has changed... :o


I think I'm too influenced by the automotive world where beater can mean a 90s Civic used as a dog van or your wifes 2019 Golf hatchback :p. Daily driver probably a better word to describe it!
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Heh, in the watch world, I think a daily driver is basically the equivalent of a 'beater'... it goes everywhere with you on your wrist so is at most risk of wear and tear. Even my white Oyster 39mm got pretty scuffed on my first 3 month of use. :o

If I bought some some crazy fancy and delicate annual calendar movement then yes I would treat it like a child and only wear it on more special occasions, but for tool and dressy sports watches I just like to relax and enjoy them. :)
 
I’d probably look at Tudor for £3k new. Though a secondhand Omega could be an option, I’d be looking at what is out there. Depends what speaks to you.
 
Btw I wasn't saying the 58 cannot be a daily watch, certainly it can! It just sounded like what you were after was a properly robust tool watch within that budget.

Personally though I would still look at Sinn, Doxa as mentioned are another and Squale are well up there too considering they made the original dive watch cases and have been in the game since day 1.

If you must stick with Tudor though then I would not look anywhere else other than an OG Pelagos. You can get one under £3000 and it has the ETA movement (top bin, tightly regulated) so any watchmaker can service it. Surface scratches also get covered up by the titanium oxidising over time too which is a bonus and the bracelet clasp remains unmatched by anything else out there for self-adjusting comfort. Titanium also has a certain warmth against the skin that stainless steel can't replicate.
 
If I didn't have a Sub, no question I'd be after a Pelagos - titanium, a brand that seems to look after its customers when issues arise, and that bracelet clasp...

One reservation is the dial - Tudor do really boring matte dials all to often!
 
Just picked up a Grand Seiko spring drive diver whilst waiting for my ND sub. I knew it was going to happen but the GS is so damn good I don't really want the sub anymore.
 
GS dials are hand finished though and no comparison. Hell even GS cases are a cut above the average Rolex. They are not tool watches though tbh.
 
mrk said:
GS dials are hand finished though and no comparison. Hell even GS cases are a cut above the average Rolex. They are not tool watches though tbh.
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You do realise the dials are protected beneath the sapphire yes! You can make a tool watch with a dial that doesn't look cheap like the Tudors.

And your definition of a tool watch may be rather personal. I disagree that Rolex and GS are not tool watches (other than the dress lines of course), it just depends on your budget, approach and values. My Sub isn't to be babied, but I also take it off when I know it could get clobbered. Others don't, and just treat them as robust things that can take some wear and tear, but they're also prepared for the consequences.
 
Probably the best video of the BB58 925 so far, dives right in to the details of silver.


Straight after watching the above, I just came across this.


Wow... that is some serious not very attractive tarnishing for a product which should be tarnish resistant, only after a month! Seems to be in areas of contact with skin and sweat. Tudor's marketing of basically 'It won't tarnish' is looking pretty poor if this video is anything to go by. Will be interesting to see if anyone else has this same issue as time goes on.
 
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That is quite extreme and not the good kind of patina you want to see!

Funny how he says all that about the yellowing, not what he expected and nothing he tried could get rid of it yet then goes to say it should be "pretty easy" to get rid of, just take it to a dealer every month.... Yes that's very appropriate.

hughtrimble said:
You do realise the dials are protected beneath the sapphire yes! You can make a tool watch with a dial that doesn't look cheap like the Tudors.

And your definition of a tool watch may be rather personal. I disagree that Rolex and GS are not tool watches (other than the dress lines of course), it just depends on your budget, approach and values. My Sub isn't to be babied, but I also take it off when I know it could get clobbered. Others don't, and just treat them as robust things that can take some wear and tear, but they're also prepared for the consequences.
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I don't think the dials look cheap, up close they are finely made and detailed but they don't have the texture of a GS or the lustre of a Sub - This much is true. Tudor just has a clinical approach to dials it seems but this is fine as it's fit for that purpose.

The Pelagos is the very definition of what a tool watch is though, clinical design, nothing polished, all mate/satin at most. No Sub or GS embodies "tool watch" by definition, even though yes they could and do very easily live up to the same tasks as an actual tool watch. It's just in this original context I imaged an actual tool watch, which the Pelagos (and others mentioned like Sinn etc) exactly are.
 
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That yellowing is typical of silver. Some silver polish on a cloth will sort it and will literally wipe it away. But silver polish is abrasive and I've learnt myself when polishing silver that you need to pay attention to the lines and direction of motion when applying the polish, as you will get streaks / scratches in the finish if you aren't careful and / or are too heavy handed. If you're not OCD already, you will be! As you'll be fixed on the brush lines and their direction.

It's one thing polishing silver cufflinks that are tarnished, but I can see this being a total pain in the ****. Polishing something that is as intricate as a watch on a frequent basis is a major turn off for me. Silver is used all over the case, including the the bezel IIRC. This is stuff of nightmares for me on a maintenance aspect.

I'll watch closely what others say about this piece, that video seems like the only one that has surfaced, so far.
 
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2StepSteve said:
I'll watch closely what others say about this piece, that video seems like the only one that has surfaced, so far.
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I've seen a couple of videos/comments (might even have been here) questioning if the silver will tarnish etc or whether it has a treatment similar to that of the bronze. Some might not be so eager to post stuff because they know it might go a little yellow being silver etc.

Hodinkee review (below) says that tudor says that it will not tarnish in the usual fashion.... so it will tarnish then.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/tudor-black-bay-fifty-eight-925-hands-on
 
Hyburnate said:
Yeah I love my Tudor and it's my daily go to
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Mine were before the pandemic turns me into a fitness
2StepSteve said:
Probably the best video of the BB58 925 so far, dives right in to the details of silver.


Straight after watching the above, I just came across this.


Wow... that is some serious not very attractive tarnishing for a product which should be tarnish resistant, only after a month! Seems to be in areas of contact with skin and sweat. Tudor's marketing of basically 'It won't tarnish' is looking pretty poor if this video is anything to go by. Will be interesting to see if anyone else has this same issue as time goes on.
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Honestly, I do not understand why anyone would buy a pure silver bracelet over a Stainless Steel one for regular wear.
 
mrk said:
The Pelagos is the very definition of what a tool watch is though, clinical design, nothing polished, all mate/satin at most. No Sub or GS embodies "tool watch" by definition, even though yes they could and do very easily live up to the same tasks as an actual tool watch. It's just in this original context I imaged an actual tool watch, which the Pelagos (and others mentioned like Sinn etc) exactly are.
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This is what you've decided a tool watch needs to be though. A tool in most circumstances doesn't need to hide its wear, unless that wear impacts its function or if the owner doesn't like things looking used. So long as the tool continues its function despite use, then it's still a tool no? Aesthetic wear means nothing for its intended tool purpose, unless...your purpose is for it to not look used? And that's where I suggest watch owners get this idea from - they like the idea of their watch not being just jewellery, but of having a design that suggests that they are but a tool. But then they also want them to stay looking nice (I do too!), because they are a form of jewellery.

Have you owned any Sinns? You'll find they get marred up like lots of other watches (mine did!), other than if you've paid the extra for their surface treatment in which case they do seem to be more resistant, judging by user feedback on them.

I'll pose the above summarised, as a question: To you, is a tool watch that shows its wear, no longer a tool watch?
 
To me it's less about the wear and more about how it is aesthetically. A shiny blingy diver isn't a tool watch because it's not understated/utilitarian I guess. that's my view anyway. I only mentioned the scratches showing etc because most people don't want to see scratches on a case. A Sinn/Titanium case or blasted/brushed case and bracelets will show far fewer scratches than a polished one for example. Lastly a tool watch diver has all the hallmarks of a tool watch, so crown guard, a movement that doesn't need to be sent away for a couple of weeks minimum to be worked on in the unfortunate event something does happen etc.
 
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