What watch do you wear?

Cosmic182 said:
I’m torn between the Tudor Pelagos 42 and the Oris AquisPro 4000m. Both big ol watches.

Talk me out of both please.
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For now - I ended up purchasing what was advertised as a 2024 Norqain independence wild one £2200 (RRP £4550) Purchased it off of eBay’s authenticity guarantee programme. Was advertised as a full set 2024 - authorised no problem, however the warranty card serial number does not match the case serial number! Thus unknown date/warranty status. Might return!! Or do I get in touch with Norqain?

Beautiful none the less.




 
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dlockers said:
Too suss and expensive to take a chance I think...
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My only gripe is would the manufacturer warranty still remain in place with it being a pre owned piece regardless of the warranty card?

It was authenticated via the eBay authenticity guarantee, just suss that the serial number on the card does not match the case, I don’t get it - case serial number is 6 digit, warranty card is 8 digits.
 
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Cosmic182 said:
My only gripe is would the manufacturer warranty still remain in place with it being a pre owned piece regardless of the warranty card?

It was authenticated via the eBay authenticity guarantee, just suss that the serial number on the card does not match the case, I don’t get it - case serial number is 6 digit, warranty card is 8 digits.
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It might be authentic but it sounds like someone may have bought a box and papers to match a watch?
 
dlockers said:
It might be authentic but it sounds like someone may have bought a box and papers to match a watch?
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As in someone potentially purchased the box and warranty card separately - previously from another piece, then just paired it with this piece?

Seems suss that someone could potentially go to that much effort despite numbers not matching up. Can’t really be surprised nowadays.
 
Cosmic182 said:
As in someone potentially purchased the box and warranty card separately - previously from another piece, then just paired it with this piece?

Seems suss that someone could potentially go to that much effort despite numbers not matching up. Can’t really be surprised nowadays.
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I can't imagine the factory mucked it up! This is pretty common for stolen watches tho.
 
dlockers said:
I can't imagine the factory mucked it up! This is pretty common for stolen watches tho.
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Can’t understand why the seller advertised it as a full set when clearly it isn’t, a genuine 100% experienced seller too.

Requested a return for it and received a returns label.
It’s a beautiful piece! however it doesn’t lie well with myself keeping it knowing papers etc do not marrow up, don’t even think I would break even if I were to sell it at a later date.

Thanks for your advice :) Back to the drawing board once refunded!
 
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Cosmic182 said:
Can’t understand why the seller advertised it as a full set when clearly it isn’t, a genuine 100% experienced seller too.

Requested a return for it and received a returns label.
It’s a beautiful piece! however it doesn’t lie well with myself keeping it knowing papers etc do not marrow up, don’t even think I would break even if I were to sell it at a later date.

Thanks for your advice :) Back to the drawing board once refunded!
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You have done the right thing. You would wonder about it also if you sell it on this issue would almost certainly come up
 
Cosmic182 said:
For now - I ended up purchasing what was advertised as a 2024 Norqain independence wild one £2200 (RRP £4550) Purchased it off of eBay’s authenticity guarantee programme. Was advertised as a full set 2024 - authorised no problem, however the warranty card serial number does not match the case serial number! Thus unknown date/warranty status. Might return!! Or do I get in touch with Norqain?

Beautiful none the less.




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Chinese special. The guy on retro watches reviewed a Chinese tourbulon and it came in the same box, same no-name name and same printed "guarantee" card. His immediate points:
* name on the box didn't appear on the watch anywhere (remember he took the watch apart)
* the watch had no serial number anywhere and nor did the the card, or any details. With no T&C it's impossible to know what that guarantee actually means.
* the watch internally had already started to corrode with the mechanism already showing tarnishing. That's in a 'sealed' atmosphere of the watch.
* the watch screws and blued components weren't heat treated blued.

Personally for that money I'd be walking away from the 'deal'.
 
NickK said:
Chinese special. The guy on retro watches reviewed a Chinese tourbulon and it came in the same box, same no-name name and same printed "guarantee" card. His immediate points:
* name on the box didn't appear on the watch anywhere (remember he took the watch apart)
* the watch had no serial number anywhere and nor did the the card, or any details. With no T&C it's impossible to know what that guarantee actually means.
* the watch internally had already started to corrode with the mechanism already showing tarnishing. That's in a 'sealed' atmosphere of the watch.
* the watch screws and blued components weren't heat treated blued.

Personally for that money I'd be walking away from the 'deal'.
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Oof. If that's true OP needs to be hyper careful. Seller could call foul and suggest he has swapped it out or something.... hopefully not. Fingers crossed for you OP.
 
Cosmic182 said:
For now - I ended up purchasing what was advertised as a 2024 Norqain independence wild one £2200 (RRP £4550) Purchased it off of eBay’s authenticity guarantee programme. Was advertised as a full set 2024 - authorised no problem, however the warranty card serial number does not match the case serial number! Thus unknown date/warranty status. Might return!! Or do I get in touch with Norqain?

Beautiful none the less.




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You managed to to take the worst photo of what could be a beautiful wristwatch. I know more about your radiator than the £2k watch :)
 
dlockers said:
Oof. If that's true OP needs to be hyper careful. Seller could call foul and suggest he has swapped it out or something.... hopefully not. Fingers crossed for you OP.
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Thankfully, the seller has already confirmed that they didn’t even realise the serial numbers did not match (Case/card) and has accepted the return. The eBay authenticity guarantee programme has matched the watch case serial number to eBay’s stamped guarantee card they do so can’t accuse me swapping anything out.

Just to clarify the watch case serial number matches the eBay guarantee card/serial number, but not the “manufacturer international warranty card supplied”

You wouldn’t think a Chinese fake would get through an authentication guarantee programme - that and there seems to be next to none evidence of norqain reps.

Again baffles me as to how you can sell a high end piece and not interpret the correct details.
 
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Cosmic182 said:
You wouldn’t think a Chinese fake would get through an authentication guarantee programme - that and there seems to be next to none evidence of norqain reps.
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I absolutely would think it could get through - how would eBay staff know what to look for in a watch like this? I don't think there'll be training for all brands, and even if there is, it's a bit of a push to imagine eBay putting people through this training, let alone then having them assessed to see if they have actually learnt the ins and outs. They didn't even spot the serial numbers not matching... doesn't exactly indicate any attention to detail does it!

Rolex fakes/frankens can be astonishingly convincing to supposedly trained Rolex specialists, and that's a brand that's been around for yonks.

You've definitely done the sensible thing in returning it.
 
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hughtrimble said:
I absolutely would think it could get through - how would eBay staff know what to look for in a watch like this? I don't think there'll be training for all brands, and even if there is, it's a bit of a push to imagine eBay putting people through this training, let alone then having them assessed to see if they have actually learnt the ins and outs. They didn't even spot the serial numbers not matching... doesn't exactly indicate any attention to detail does it!

Rolex fakes/frankens can be astonishingly convincing to supposedly trained Rolex specialists, and that's a brand that's been around for yonks.

You've definitely done the sensible thing in returning it.
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I guess they did and they didn’t?

They could have authenticated it along side the “incorrect” manufacturer warranty card, however they authenticated it on the watch case serial number….. either way I’ve just sent it back :) thank you guys.
 
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